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Have they tried both ‘Front Wings’?

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It was pretty clear that ALO will use the old floor. Krack said that they have to test new against old. STR had no FP1, so he will have the new parts in FP2.

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Do both cars use all the updates for Qualy?

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Alo had terrible luck, both times he had a purple sector a red flag screwed his laps and both times he was in the last sector, just incredible luck, but a P5 is the best qualifying result Aston Martin has had since Canada, upgrades have worked so there is reason to be happy.

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Behind Red Bull , McLaren , Mercedes and Williams now in qualy

Let’s hope it was down to track conditions but not good

Anyway P5 is decent but he desperately needs to jump ALB at start or race is dead

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Jambier wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 16:38
Behind Red Bull , McLaren , Mercedes and Williams now in qualy

Let’s hope it was down to track conditions but not good

Anyway P5 is decent but he desperately needs to jump ALB at start or race is dead
Based on FP2, Aston have tons of pace for tomorrow.
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ALO_Power wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 15:32
Do both cars use all the updates for Qualy?
i don't know if they ran that winglet under the diffuser

not a bad qualy tbh. hopefully the new front wing in singapore will help this package

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AM has a tire warm-up issue; another lap for Alonso would have put him close to Lando

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NAPI10 wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 16:41
AM has a tire warm-up issue; another lap for Alonso would have put him close to Lando
I think both McLarens made tons of errors in their laps, so their positions/deltas are not entirely representative

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Jambier wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 16:38
Behind Red Bull , McLaren , Mercedes and Williams now in qualy

Let’s hope it was down to track conditions but not good

Anyway P5 is decent but he desperately needs to jump ALB at start or race is dead
It's the best qualifying result since Canada, don't be that sad. Williams was also ahead in Silverstone but this time instead of Albon p8/Alonso p9 it's p4/p5 so if anything both Aston and Williams have improved.

Alonso says car feels good, upgrades have worked and there is good correlation between the data and he thanks the guys at the factory for all the work they had to put.

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This was another weekend with conditions that don't favour the car. Dry conditions would be better. And the race pace will likely be better than quali; Albon should fall back and Alonso may be able to fight for p3 maybe even p2. Depends on how quick Perez/Piastri are behind

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organic wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 17:00
This was another weekend with conditions that don't favour the car. Dry conditions would be better. And the race pace will likely be better than quali; Albon should fall back and Alonso may be able to fight for p3 maybe even p2. Depends on how quick Perez/Piastri are behind
Do you have top speeds?

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KimiRai wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 17:07
organic wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 17:00
This was another weekend with conditions that don't favour the car. Dry conditions would be better. And the race pace will likely be better than quali; Albon should fall back and Alonso may be able to fight for p3 maybe even p2. Depends on how quick Perez/Piastri are behind
Do you have top speeds?
It's not ideal as some have been knocked out and so different conditions / drs was enabled but it has representative comparison between top 10

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Williams/Albon are not a rocketship on the straights this weekend

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organic wrote:
26 Aug 2023, 17:10
It's not ideal as some have been knocked out and so different conditions / drs was enabled but it has representative comparison between top 10

https://i.imgur.com/QHR5UJa.png

Williams/Albon are not a rocketship on the straights this weekend
Amr similar top speed to the Williams then so it shouldn't be too difficult to pass tomorrow. I agree with you that it will depend on Perez & Piastri who are behind and might be faster so i'm not bullish on a podium but good points will be in play at the very least.

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if we trust those top speed numbers and we also delete the ferraris from the comparison due to them running a compromised low downforce setup due to their issues, aston have decent top speed, only 5km from redbulls. they definitely improved that since the start of the season (which might have unbalanced the car and caused other issues, but its an improvement for sure). it doesn't seem to be anymore the bahrain amr23 that forced fernando to overtake in impossible places due to lack of top speed, so it will be interesting to check the top speeds at Monza as well to confirm the trend .