2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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List of max speed per driver??

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jambuka wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 18:25
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 18:14
Sainz's top speeds in FP2 were in another category. They can definetly fight for pole, I change my vote.
Were Leclerc & Sainz on different engine modes ?
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Sainz better top speed up to Ascari and Parabolica (5kph on both).

Perhaps some engine mode differences, I can't say for sure? Hope it is not due to reliability.

You can see a key difference in the driving styles aswell. Charles likes rotating the car on throttle where Sainz would completely lift rotate the car and get back on power. This also something that is quite evident through S2-S3 at Austria. I'm quite confident in saying this is the exact reason the SF-23 doesn't suit LEC style, to keep the minimum cornering speed high you need a car that rotates well in the mid corner which is not the case with the SF-23.

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 20:14
jambuka wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 18:25
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 18:14
Sainz's top speeds in FP2 were in another category. They can definetly fight for pole, I change my vote.
Were Leclerc & Sainz on different engine modes ?
https://ibb.co/ZhhMynv
https://ibb.co/LS9W9Ch

Sainz better top speed up to Ascari and Parabolica (5kph on both).

Perhaps some engine mode differences, I can't say for sure? Hope it is not due to reliability.

You can see a key difference in the driving styles aswell. Charles likes rotating the car on throttle where Sainz would completely lift rotate the car and get back on power. This also something that is quite evident through S2-S3 at Austria. I'm quite confident in saying this is the exact reason the SF-23 doesn't suit LEC style, to keep the minimum cornering speed high you need a car that rotates well in the mid corner which is not the case with the SF-23.
Check Leclerc's lap 7 on the medium tire.

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codetower
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So what were the top speeds for each? And did Carlos have a higher DF rear wing?

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codetower wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 21:22
So what were the top speeds for each? And did Carlos have a higher DF rear wing?
In FP2 they were running the same rear wing and beam wing configuration

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Leclerc with interesting laps in high fuel configuration.

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Xyz22 wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49rGYQXYAA ... name=large

Leclerc with interesting laps in high fuel configuration.

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This is hilarious man. How can the feedback be so different, surely they aren't galaxies away in terms of how the cars are setup. Again I feel like the biggest differentiator is the driving styles ? #-o
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scuderiabrandon wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:09
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49rGYQXYAA ... name=large

Leclerc with interesting laps in high fuel configuration.

https://ibb.co/ggtZQW7

This is hilarious man. How can the feedback be so different, surely they aren't galaxies away in terms of how the cars are setup? #-o
Carlos is a more optimistic person, typically.

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:09
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49rGYQXYAA ... name=large

Leclerc with interesting laps in high fuel configuration.

https://ibb.co/ggtZQW7

This is hilarious man. How can the feedback be so different, surely they aren't galaxies away in terms of how the cars are setup. Again I feel like the biggest differentiator is the driving styles ? #-o
It's common knowledge (for who follows F1) that Leclerc and Sainz requires very different things in terms of balance to be competitive. It's also widely known that Sainz is quite good at dealing with cars that have quite a lot of understeer, which is the case of the SF 23.

You pretty much can't use the front end of this car.

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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:11
scuderiabrandon wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:09
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49rGYQXYAA ... name=large

Leclerc with interesting laps in high fuel configuration.

https://ibb.co/ggtZQW7

This is hilarious man. How can the feedback be so different, surely they aren't galaxies away in terms of how the cars are setup? #-o
Carlos is a more optimistic person, typically.
I'm more so referring the the fact that Carlos says the long runs need improvement and the short runs look solid and Charles reports the complete opposite.

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:09
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 22:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49rGYQXYAA ... name=large

Leclerc with interesting laps in high fuel configuration.

https://ibb.co/ggtZQW7

This is hilarious man. How can the feedback be so different, surely they aren't galaxies away in terms of how the cars are setup. Again I feel like the biggest differentiator is the driving styles ? #-o
Leclerc may or may not be fine with the long term pace but wants to shoot for pole position and wants to get a better balance.

Sainz wants to work on race pace. IMO better balance will also give race pace.

I don't really see them a miles apart.

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Will write this now. Whole race operations should get fired how the heck u dont comply with race director rules...
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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Not bad for a #2 driver. :wink:

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scuderiabrandon
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No further action according to Chris Medland

Thats P1 and P3


SAI very clean weekend so far, looked more comfortable all weekend.

Charles confirmed it was his choice to go out first, which cost him pole for suree. Very close and good to see both drivers competitive. Hope we hold up in the race.
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Sainz haha. Impressive. Talk about pressure!