Farnborough wrote: ↑10 Sep 2023, 21:53Wow, what a picture.
Shows just how hard some of those components are working ! Just look at the amount of deflection on top wishbone rear suspension in comparison right to left sides. Anyone that thinks these cars have only about 15mm of travel (as sometimes stated) should look at this.
Notice also the left tyre and how much wear its showing with the outer edge significant in being less diameter than the inner shoulder. Its sitting in free air too, with no lateral distortion from loading.
Yes, tyre deformation and normal under lateral loads. See how close it gets to wing end plate on inner edge in comparison to unloaded tyre on other side.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 05:09Beautiful photo. Reminds me of Rosberg 2015 (or 2016, can't remember).
Is that the wheel cover showing on the rear right? Is that normal, or actual tyre shifting/deformation?
The top arms are nowhere near flat. The right clearly visible above beam wing with the left clearly below. Also you can see the amount of actuation on the push rods to springs being at very different angles too.Zynerji wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 01:58Farnborough wrote: ↑10 Sep 2023, 21:53Wow, what a picture.
Shows just how hard some of those components are working ! Just look at the amount of deflection on top wishbone rear suspension in comparison right to left sides. Anyone that thinks these cars have only about 15mm of travel (as sometimes stated) should look at this.
Notice also the left tyre and how much wear its showing with the outer edge significant in being less diameter than the inner shoulder. Its sitting in free air too, with no lateral distortion from loading.
Looks like the top wishbones are flat, and that still image captured the lifted tyre mid-oscillation.
Fascinating, so that is actually the rim? I thought that at first, but then thought "surely it can't be" and wrote "wheel cover" instead.Farnborough wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 07:51Yes, tyre deformation and normal under lateral loads. See how close it gets to wing end plate on inner edge in comparison to unloaded tyre on other side.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 05:09Beautiful photo. Reminds me of Rosberg 2015 (or 2016, can't remember).
Is that the wheel cover showing on the rear right? Is that normal, or actual tyre shifting/deformation?
Both the rim and looks like a little of the wheel cover appear visible.
Quite a dramatic photo, and agree its like one of Rosberg in opposite direction with the chassis compressed highly too. I "clipped" that Rosberg photo at the time as its so dramatic. Funny that we both remember in it the same fairly extreme levels of load.
It's interesting to look at the rear right tire and how it didn't come off the rim.Farnborough wrote: ↑10 Sep 2023, 21:53Wow, what a picture.
Shows just how hard some of those components are working ! Just look at the amount of deflection on top wishbone rear suspension in comparison right to left sides. Anyone that thinks these cars have only about 15mm of travel (as sometimes stated) should look at this.
Notice also the left tyre and how much wear its showing with the outer edge significant in being less diameter than the inner shoulder. Its sitting in free air too, with no lateral distortion from loading.
Yes, I also remembered this photo. It looks even more extreme there, since the car's rake was larger, and the rear tires could be deformed more. Well, there was more roll in fast turns.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 05:09Beautiful photo. Reminds me of Rosberg 2015 (or 2016, can't remember).
Is that the wheel cover showing on the rear right? Is that normal, or actual tyre shifting/deformation?
There exist also a photo from a ferrari 2019, also in degner/suzuka, that is very extrem.LionsHeart wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 08:54Yes, I also remembered this photo. It looks even more extreme there, since the car's rake was larger, and the rear tires could be deformed more. Well, there was more roll in fast turns.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 05:09Beautiful photo. Reminds me of Rosberg 2015 (or 2016, can't remember).
Is that the wheel cover showing on the rear right? Is that normal, or actual tyre shifting/deformation?
I don't remember this. Can you post it here?michl420 wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 10:01There exist also a photo from a ferrari 2019, also in degner/suzuka, that is very extrem.LionsHeart wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 08:54Yes, I also remembered this photo. It looks even more extreme there, since the car's rake was larger, and the rear tires could be deformed more. Well, there was more roll in fast turns.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 05:09Beautiful photo. Reminds me of Rosberg 2015 (or 2016, can't remember).
Is that the wheel cover showing on the rear right? Is that normal, or actual tyre shifting/deformation?
Considering the speeds, acceleration values, the tire compliance, I can only imagine how alive these cars and prev gens must feel. Granted they're launching off the orange curb here, but even that illustrates how compliant the cars must be. The combination of tall sidewalls and the quickest direction changes in automobilia...Mostlyeels wrote: ↑11 Sep 2023, 08:03That Rosberg photo was a classic. It is etched into my mind. I think both that and this show the dynamism of the rear end perfectly.
Another illustration of the contact patch here:Farnborough wrote: ↑10 Sep 2023, 21:53Notice also the left tyre and how much wear its showing with the outer edge significant in being less diameter than the inner shoulder. Its sitting in free air too, with no lateral distortion from loading.
Is it not the Launch Render again?AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑13 Sep 2023, 11:14New livery unveiled but…
Aren’t these new sidepods????
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