2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 15 -17

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Re: 2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 15 -17

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djones wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 17:49
Wouter wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 17:36
djones wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 16:09
Very interesting to see the Redbull after the removal of illegal flexing floors.
Do yo have some proof that their woes are down to this? Show me the proof!

Do you know they drove in Quali with the old spec floor?!
Teams did not have to publish changes as a result of the TD like they usually do at each race.
Was this mentioned somewhere?
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Yes, changes in general were published but changes related to the TDs specifically did NOT need to be published. It is further upthread.
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vorticism wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:09
Link?
viewtopic.php?p=1158938#p1158938


Teams were not required to declare on the FIA document the changes made to their car bodies (wings and bottom mainly) to meet the new requirements of the updated TD018 and TD039.

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Hammerfist wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 17:38
chrisc90 wrote:
15 Sep 2023, 22:54
Fully expecting normal service by FP3 or the latest quali when the engine gets turned back up.

Worst case is there is actually a hint of a race (like we got for the first 15 laps of Monza)
Overconfidence is such a powerful drug. But you're right there is actually more than a hint of a race for the win but RBR aren't going to be part of it. :mrgreen:
They might be fighting Merc for their positions then ;) :lol: :lol: 8)
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dialtone wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:17
vorticism wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:09
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viewtopic.php?p=1158938#p1158938


Teams were not required to declare on the FIA document the changes made to their car bodies (wings and bottom mainly) to meet the new requirements of the updated TD018 and TD039.
+1 thanks. We'll need shots of the car on a lift to help confirm things on our end. Now, they did report floor edge changes. Which could be downstream of floor changes they didn't have to report. Although I am still doubtful--teams were allowed to show up at this race (and this one only?) with potentially new floor geometry because of this TD? I wonder how the lines in the sands were drawn in all this regarding FIA protocol. "Central floor changes don't need to be reported but floor edge changes do, as usual." ?


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Logan Sargent gets away with a reprimand for impeding. Williams is fined €5.000 because the team didn't warn him.

Infringement - Car 2 - Impeding of Car 18.

Can't be long until the decisions on Max incidents are published.


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Max got two reprimands (Tsunoda and Pit Lane) and no penalty for the Impeding of Sargent.
Red Bull fined €5.000.
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Two reprimands and no further action for the third.

You can't tell me the FIA aren't biased at this point. That is ridiculous.

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Norris for the win, Ferrari to ‘Ferrari’ the strategy calls and give us an all UK podium.
Unless the RB issues (tyre related, much as weirded-out Mercedes in 2015) are not present with race levels of fuel, they will be lucky to get top six finishes.
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The Tsunoda one was slam dunk. No way any other driver would not get a grid drop. I do not even understand why. 3 places are not going to prevent him from climbing back up if he has the pace. Not giving the penalty though, does way more damage to the sport.

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Not to sound petty, but hopefully other teams keep accidentally finding themselves in the way of Max every quali lap in future.

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Matt2725 wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:51
Two reprimands and no further action for the third.

You can't tell me the FIA aren't biased at this point. That is ridiculous.
wtf, no way,
so from now on, blocking is just 'lack of communication, no more penalties I guess

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FIA always manages to surprise me - that is in a negative way.

If MV was top 3 or anyways close to pole, they would never demote him in fear of meddling with results (stupid, but anyway). But I thought being 11th wouldn't change much and they would assert their rules by penalising him. Boy, was I wrong.

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So Leclerc can probably cope with Xavi from now on :)