Goodbye Bourdais

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Ray wrote:Kinda hard to perform when you're under constant reminder you're going to be fired. I hope that worthless Piquet is next.
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So Alonso to Ferrari next year and Piquet to the trash bin?

Renault needs someone good, but not great as a 2nd driver to a yet unseen lead driver. Seabass might be a good fit, although Flavio would eat him alive.
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I wanted Bourdais to go, but i think that Toro Rosso should have given him another chance since they are getting updates in Hungary.
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this year was his second chance... and he has consequently blown it. For a supposed champion (albeit from another category), he is got his arse handed to him comprehensively last year, and hasn't done much this year.

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ISLAMATRON wrote: NASCAR could say the same of F1 seeing how Montoya, JV and Speed have struggled over there.
Err... NASCAR isn't an open wheel format. The formats are so different that they require different skills, its like comparing rugby and American football, or baseball and cricket. They are all about hitting/kicking similar shaped balls at similar speeds, and catching and running. But no one one would serious expect the the participants to swap sports.

Can you think of anyone who has been successful in both NASCAR and F1? ... or for that matter in European touring cars and F1?

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MArio Andretti.

I know they are vastly different, but many think NASCAR is so easy that F1 drivers should dominate regardless, same type of false thinking that if Bourdais sucked in F1, then that automatically meant that champcar really sucked.

Bourdais got alot of oval wins and that was champcar in those days were barely racing, pedal to the flooor and let the drag dictate your oval speed... and Newman Haas had the least amount of drag on their cars and so won nearly all the oval races.

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It just goes to show how competitive F1 truly is and is a step up to the highest level compared to other racing genres.

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richard_leeds wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote: NASCAR could say the same of F1 seeing how Montoya, JV and Speed have struggled over there.
Err... NASCAR isn't an open wheel format. The formats are so different that they require different skills, its like comparing rugby and American football, or baseball and cricket. They are all about hitting/kicking similar shaped balls at similar speeds, and catching and running. But no one one would serious expect the the participants to swap sports.

Can you think of anyone who has been successful in both NASCAR and F1? ... or for that matter in European touring cars and F1?
Jean Girard is the only example I can really thing of.
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Don't forget that, supposedly, the Cosworth engined cars will have 20k rpm limits, unless this is a change to come, which I assume could give them some advantage, assuming they can last with the engine limit rule. So, it likely will not be 3 secs but too many secs to be upper mid-field me thinks!

Next year may be a good 'practice' year, get their organization and team built, hopefully more/complete funding so that 2011 will be competitive, maybe one of the 3 new teams will pull a 'brawn' for 2011, we'll see, assuming there IS a FIA/FOTA/F1 next year or assuming there is not an 'F1 spec cars Grand Prix' (FOTA) series instead of F1/FIA/FOTA as today?!

PS: Maybe a FOTA series will be in actual full HD (or even better resolution) tv coverage!!

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If they are going to sack Bourdais, then why didn't they just hire Sato over Bourdais in the first place ?

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Slife wrote:If they are going to sack Bourdais, then why didn't they just hire Sato over Bourdais in the first place ?

Because based on their shootout, they found Bourdais to be the better of the two for whatever variables they had in mind. If they fired Bourdais, they may have fired Taku earlier.

Also, Seb B had an unknown variable, and a proven ability in another series, where Sato has already come and gone twice to not a lot of impressive results.
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I would love to see Bourdais in a Renault next year. I don't necessarily like him, but after the way STR treated Speed and Liuzzi, I am not totally confident that it is entirely Bourdais' problem.

I hope he gets another shot in F1, but the chances are looking rather slim!

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ehblokgotadola wrote:It just goes to show how competitive F1 truly is and is a step up to the highest level compared to other racing genres.
If the efforts of JPM, the best ever!, and JV, whom I dislike extremely strongly, are anything to go on NASCAR isn't very easy either. Nice try though.

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Image

Image from here:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/drivers/alguersuari.shtml

Who thinks Jamie Al looks more like a pro skateboarder than a race driver?

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Kimi might have someone to hang with now :lol:

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I didnt see great things from Bourdais, but I highly doubt this Jaime boy will do better. A "modern" pay driver if you ask me. Minardi has had dozens.
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