2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

[chrisc90]

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[AR3-GP]

https://x.com/fiadocsbot/status/1710403 ... B6rHbJDvyw

That is well played by Ferrari. Using the minimum laptime ruling to "defend" it.

[Sevach]

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That is well played by Ferrari. Using the minimum laptime ruling to "defend" it.

That's indeed hillarious.
"We did this crap because of your rules", well played.

[dialtone]

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That is well played by Ferrari. Using the minimum laptime ruling to "defend" it.

One more reason to remove that rule. Rule has either caused or justified only a bunch of nonsense.

[Sieper]

It’s goal is to stop cars from bunching up before starting the hotlap. Which is dangerous to people finishing their hotlap and it is valid we need to prevent that situation from occuring. It needs very careful wording to achieve that without unwanted by effects. True. This Ferrari defense is ridiculous though. Sainz needed to go fast enough to achieve the needed time. So how is multiple attempts to block an even faster car behind you aid in that. And even if that really was their worry, he could have simply let Max go and if that had cost him any time they could have rightfully argued that if it was investigated.

Sainz simply wanted to have a go at another hotlap but that wasn’t on. It isn’t in the tires anyway if your car (like Ferrari) was struggling for speed.

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Sainz simply wanted to have a go at another hotlap but that wasn’t on. It isn’t in the tires anyway if your car (like Ferrari) was struggling for speed.

he improved by half a second. Not enough to make it to Q3, but he had every reason to go for another lap.

[Sieper]

Sainz simply wanted to have a go at another hotlap but that wasn’t on. It isn’t in the tires anyway if your car (like Ferrari) was struggling for speed.

he improved by half a second. Not enough to make it to Q3, but he had every reason to go for another lap.

Yes, he needed to go. And that is why he defended against Max. It was the stress of that situation. As dialtone said (after first trying to put the blame at Max feet).

He should have just let Max go, his tires would have been in better shape and the gap max would have pulled from turn 12 to the start of the lap would have been more than big enough to not have any hinder.

[dialtone]

It’s goal is to stop cars from bunching up before starting the hotlap. Which is dangerous to people finishing their hotlap and it is valid we need to prevent that situation from occuring. It needs very careful wording to achieve that without unwanted by effects. True. This Ferrari defense is ridiculous though. Sainz needed to go fast enough to achieve the needed time. So how is multiple attempts to block an even faster car behind you aid in that. And even if that really was their worry, he could have simply let Max go and if that had cost him any time they could have rightfully argued that if it was investigated.

Sainz simply wanted to have a go at another hotlap but that wasn’t on. It isn’t in the tires anyway if your car (like Ferrari) was struggling for speed.

Sainz needed another lap, to create a gap in front after Max passed, might have required to slow down even further plus potential traffic to slow him further. Ferrari has been called in each of the last 2 races so it’s really not a far fetched story.

That the rule causes these issues makes this rule absolutely stupid. The intent is good but implementation is braindead.

[dialtone]

Sainz simply wanted to have a go at another hotlap but that wasn’t on. It isn’t in the tires anyway if your car (like Ferrari) was struggling for speed.

he improved by half a second. Not enough to make it to Q3, but he had every reason to go for another lap.

Yes, he needed to go. And that is why he defended against Max. It was the stress of that situation. As dialtone said (after first trying to put the blame at Max feet).

He should have just let Max go, his tires would have been in better shape and the gap max would have pulled from turn 12 to the start of the lap would have been more than big enough to not have any hinder.

I never placed any blame on Max. I placed blame on fans that have more information after quali, going around saying Sainz was on an inlap and needed to be penalized.

[AR3-GP]

nvm.

[dialtone]

Yes, he needed to go. And that is why he defended against Max. It was the stress of that situation. As dialtone said (after first trying to put the blame at Max feet).

He should have just let Max go, his tires would have been in better shape and the gap max would have pulled from turn 12 to the start of the lap would have been more than big enough to not have any hinder.

I never placed any blame on Max. I placed blame on fans that have more information after quali, going around saying Sainz was on an inlap and needed to be penalized.

I said "If" he was on an in-lap.

I actually wasn’t referring to you .

It’s just that in discord i was told Sainz was on inlap so I blamed Sainz in the chat, and later I checked the onboard and turned out it wasn’t an inlap and it wasn’t penalty worthy.

[KimiRai]

I'm surprised Fabrega does not put the simulator predictions through the sanity test. Alpine is never the worst car. They are far from the best, but they are not the worst car anywhere except maybe monza due to PU. Otherwise, they are almost always just behind the top 5 teams no matter the circuit.

For reference. This time it did not pan out at all.

[marcel171281]

Tyres left for tomorrow (in accordance with Pirelli's list, but with tyre age):

https://i.imgur.com/3PtuWrm.png

Unless they invent some rain again, new Mediums must be used in SQ1 and SQ2 tomorrow (one set each), and one set of Softs in SQ3, which is now allowed to be a used one.

the table is not entirely correct, Verstappen should have a set of softs with only 2 laps on it.

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Tyres left for tomorrow (in accordance with Pirelli's list, but with tyre age):

https://i.imgur.com/3PtuWrm.png

Unless they invent some rain again, new Mediums must be used in SQ1 and SQ2 tomorrow (one set each), and one set of Softs in SQ3, which is now allowed to be a used one.

the table is not entirely correct, Verstappen should have a set of softs with only 2 laps on it.

thanks, right, he aborted the final lap, same as Hamilton, so in his case it must be 2 instead of 1. Will edit it in for the post sprint update.

In the end, those tyres are unlikely to be used again anyway though, I think? Or is the soft an option for the race?

[Stu]

Did stroll shove someone in the background there?

Yes. He shoved his personal trainer. Here's the video

Doing a ‘Clarkson’…

…and then the interview.

If he didn’t have such a nepotistic position in the team he would have be history by now.
He just looks and act like an entitled brat.