2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[deadhead]

I think its the car, as soon as LEC started feeling more comfortable with it he has been faster.. I think Japan is when things changed, so if he stays healthy (I saw he had some issues this past weekend) I expect him to be faster than Sainz for the rest of the season.

[Cassius]

I have no hopes on Ferrari retaining 2nd spot on the constructors championship.. strategy sucks ..with the Mercedes update, there is no way Ferrari can challenge Mercedes

The Haas will be RB concept with Ferrari engine and Ferrari suspension. Of course Ferrari is not working directly with Haas because that is verboten but I'm certain there are things that anyone could learn from "afar".

Actually Russel wasn’t that fast with Merc upgrade. HAM was but ride height was too low. Next race will tell if Merc can be as fast with higher setup.

Russell was fastest on track in final stint. A few seconds faster than Lewis.

Also, they performed much better in the fast corners with the upgrade. They were already strong in the slow. I expect them to be race win contenders in Mexico and Brazil.

[AR3-GP]

I think its the car, as soon as LEC started feeling more comfortable with it he has been faster.. I think Japan is when things changed, so if he stays healthy (I saw he had some issues this past weekend) I expect him to be faster than Sainz for the rest of the season.

I might be able to retrieve the article later but Leclerc said the Suzuka floor made the car suit him more. He cited that upgrade with regard to his oversteer preference.

[Macklaren]

Hamilton was too strong, but yeah Charles would have passed Norris for sure.

How are you guys so confident that Charles would have passed Lando? He finished the race 3 seconds behind him + 22 seconds for a pit stop. With 10 laps to go, do you really think he would have been 2.5 secs a lap quicker than Lando?

[AR3-GP]

Hamilton was too strong, but yeah Charles would have passed Norris for sure.

How are you guys so confident that Charles would have passed Lando? He finished the race 3 seconds behind him + 22 seconds for a pit stop. With 10 laps to go, do you really think he would have been 2.5 secs a lap quicker than Lando?

The assumption is that Leclerc did a 2 stop race from pole position. If Carlos started 4th(?) and almost caught Norris, then Leclerc would have caught Norris.

There’s a lot of factors in this however. It’s too simple to just assume it would be so. Norris overcooked his tires.

[Xyz22]

Hamilton was too strong, but yeah Charles would have passed Norris for sure.

How are you guys so confident that Charles would have passed Lando? He finished the race 3 seconds behind him + 22 seconds for a pit stop. With 10 laps to go, do you really think he would have been 2.5 secs a lap quicker than Lando?

Charles was around 4s ahead of Sainz before the first pit stop
Charles had a pace advantage on Sainz in the first stint of over 0.2s

This pace, projected on a 2 stop strategy, would put Charles in the fight with Lando for P3. On pure pace, actually quite ahead.

[Macklaren]

Hmmmm OK I see. not sure he would have def been ahead given Lando's early pace vs. Charles but could have been a challenge at least (we dont know Lando vs. Charles Hards pace with both of them pushing)

[Xyz22]

Hmmmm OK I see. not sure he would have def been ahead given Lando's early pace vs. Charles but could have been a challenge at least (we dont know Lando vs. Charles Hards pace with both of them pushing)

Of course, this is based on the idea that Charles was able to lap around 0.2s quicker than Carlos in stint 2 and 3 as well.

[organic]

Hmmmm OK I see. not sure he would have def been ahead given Lando's early pace vs. Charles but could have been a challenge at least (we dont know Lando vs. Charles Hards pace with both of them pushing)

Of course, this is based on the idea that Charles was able to lap around 0.2s quicker than Carlos in stint 2 and 3 as well.

Considering Charles was 2 tenths faster than Carlos whilst also doing more tyre saving to run the 1-stop, we should probably predict more than 0.2s advantage over him in a theoretical 2-stop for Charles

[Xyz22]

Hmmmm OK I see. not sure he would have def been ahead given Lando's early pace vs. Charles but could have been a challenge at least (we dont know Lando vs. Charles Hards pace with both of them pushing)

Of course, this is based on the idea that Charles was able to lap around 0.2s quicker than Carlos in stint 2 and 3 as well.

Considering Charles was 2 tenths faster than Carlos whilst also doing more tyre saving to run the 1-stop, we should probably predict more than 0.2s advantage over him in a theoretical 2-stop for Charles

To be honest, i also think Sainz was on a 1 stop at the beginning as well but that doesn't change the overall picture.

[Vanja #66]

Hamilton was too strong, but yeah Charles would have passed Norris for sure.

Charles was super quick this weekend considering how strong Sainz usually is and the issues of the SF 23 that are terrible for Leclerc's driving style. Unfortunately, as usual, Ferrari ruined his weekend. Not the first time and won't be the last.

Unfortunately for both himself and Ferrari, Sainz is fixated only on getting and staying ahead of Leclerc in the race in whatever way possible. In the first stint, he let Max blow past him without trying to hold him back to help save the P3 that Ferrari had with Leclerc at that point, only to hook on to Max with DRS to keep up and get right behind Leclerc in order to try and pass him. He lacked the pace to do so though.

His attitude, complaining and constant opposition to putting the team ahead of himself is not received well within the team since Binotto left. It doesn't look like he'll be staying after next year. And to me it looks like he'll scorch the earth on his way out, hope I'm wrong.

To be honest, i also think Sainz was on a 1 stop at the beginning as well but that doesn't change the overall picture.

No, the team split the strategies before the race.

[Xyz22]

Hamilton was too strong, but yeah Charles would have passed Norris for sure.

Charles was super quick this weekend considering how strong Sainz usually is and the issues of the SF 23 that are terrible for Leclerc's driving style. Unfortunately, as usual, Ferrari ruined his weekend. Not the first time and won't be the last.

Unfortunately for both himself and Ferrari, Sainz is fixated only on getting and staying ahead of Leclerc in the race in whatever way possible. In the first stint, he let Max blow past him without trying to hold him back to help save the P3 that Ferrari had with Leclerc at that point, only to hook on to Max with DRS to keep up and get right behind Leclerc in order to try and pass him. He lacked the pace to do so though.

His attitude, complaining and constant opposition to putting the team ahead of himself is not received well within the team since Binotto left. It doesn't look like he'll be staying after next year. And to me it looks like he'll scorch the earth on his way out, hope I'm wrong.

To be honest, i also think Sainz was on a 1 stop at the beginning as well but that doesn't change the overall picture.

No, the team split the strategies before the race.

According to some team radios, it appears that Sainz was on plan D initially.

[TFSA]

Some people really thought that Sainz and Russell would use a more conservative ride height setting and lose performance

Absolutely possible. Ride height goes hand in hand with suspension stiffness, and different drivers may very well have different suspension preferences, and whether or not the car is scraping the track is affected by both.

It's even possible that Russell/Leclerc might have gone with a lower standing ride height, but still be legal because stiffer suspension would prevent them from bottoming out at high speeds. This setup would of course have them driving less on the kerbs.

[Vanja #66]

According to some team radios, it appears that Sainz was on plan D initially.

These simple messages have a different meaning in every race, so other teams can't figure out what you are trying to say.

[JPower]

About conspiracies read on this thread about Ferrari, Santander, Lecrerc's engineer, all of them working against Lecrerc, who actually is Ferrari golden boy.... guys, keep it real please

Agreed, there are so many posters in this thread that are completely deluded regarding the supposed shadowy Spanish overlordship over Ferrari. It's beyond ridiculous.

Always need a boogie man to blame...