RB's new high downforce beamwing at Zandvoort made them significantly more efficient than others' max DWF spec
I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).
To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is hereXyz22 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:39I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).
Maybe Piastri and Russell could be vulnerable though.
Front row i think is a bit optimistic. We don't have a sprint race format here and we usually lose a bit of performance relatively to the comp. during the weekend.organic wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:42To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is hereXyz22 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:39I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).
Maybe Piastri and Russell could be vulnerable though.
I don't think there's easy way to get strategy wrong. Last year the best strategy was by far the S-M or M-S which used C3 and C4. I think that's what everyone will do again: Medium to hard 1 stopperXyz22 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:45Front row i think is a bit optimistic. We don't have a sprint race format here and we usually lose a bit of performance relatively to the comp. during the weekend.organic wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:42To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is hereXyz22 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:39
I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).
Maybe Piastri and Russell could be vulnerable though.
If the pace isn't awful in the race i agree we could maybe keep position even against faster cars but the difference can't be as big as it was in Suzuka for instance. Also, it will require good strategy.
It seems were are not terrible in race trim. Leclerc was the driver with the oldest M tyres (9 laps, Max and Carlos 8 laps old). Norris used a new medium according to the infograph.organic wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:48I don't think there's easy way to get strategy wrong. Last year the best strategy was by far the S-M or M-S which used C3 and C4. I think that's what everyone will do again: Medium to hard 1 stopperXyz22 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:45Front row i think is a bit optimistic. We don't have a sprint race format here and we usually lose a bit of performance relatively to the comp. during the weekend.organic wrote: ↑28 Oct 2023, 00:42
To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is here
If the pace isn't awful in the race i agree we could maybe keep position even against faster cars but the difference can't be as big as it was in Suzuka for instance. Also, it will require good strategy.
Haas and Stroll. Both ridiculous blocks.organic wrote:Someone who watched the onboards said it sounded like Ferrari were experimenting still for most of FP3. Also got the fast runs at the end blocked by Haas
Indeed. Anything other than penalties would be a surprise.