2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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If Ferrari isn't using a lower PU mode there is still a huge difference in terms of drag between RB and Ferrari when they use similar wings.

RB's new high downforce beamwing at Zandvoort made them significantly more efficient than others' max DWF spec

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If Ferrari isn't using a lower PU mode there is still a huge difference in terms of drag between RB and Ferrari when they use similar wings.

Pretty sure Ferrari is in a low PU mode.

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Sector 2 is going to be a huge struggle in the race.

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Sector 2 is going to be a huge struggle in the race.

In terms of understeer or tyre deg?

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Sector 2 is going to be a huge struggle in the race.

In terms of understeer or tyre deg?

I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).

Maybe Piastri and Russell could be vulnerable though.



Jesus... Look at McL in the fast corners. Higher PU mode for Ferrari in FP2? It seems so.

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Sector 2 is going to be a huge struggle in the race.

In terms of understeer or tyre deg?

I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).

Maybe Piastri and Russell could be vulnerable though.

To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is here

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In terms of understeer or tyre deg?

I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).

Maybe Piastri and Russell could be vulnerable though.

To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is here

Front row i think is a bit optimistic. We don't have a sprint race format here and we usually lose a bit of performance relatively to the comp. during the weekend.

If the pace isn't awful in the race i agree we could maybe keep position even against faster cars but the difference can't be as big as it was in Suzuka for instance. Also, it will require good strategy.

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I think both. Our issues are usually exacerbated in race trim. Drivers will have to approach these corners with care, as too much understeer would easily generate oversteer on exit, which would be terrible for the rear tyres (especially considering sector 3).

Maybe Piastri and Russell could be vulnerable though.

To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is here

Front row i think is a bit optimistic. We don't have a sprint race format here and we usually lose a bit of performance relatively to the comp. during the weekend.

If the pace isn't awful in the race i agree we could maybe keep position even against faster cars but the difference can't be as big as it was in Suzuka for instance. Also, it will require good strategy.

I don't think there's easy way to get strategy wrong. Last year the best strategy was by far the S-M or M-S which used C3 and C4. I think that's what everyone will do again: Medium to hard 1 stopper

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To me the track looks like it suits the car. They've ditched the maximum downforce beamwing which ruins the balance so it's same config as Singapore, which as we know was very strong in low speed 90 degree corners. COTA was actually competitive from Ferrari - they were quickest over 1 lap and 3rd quickest over race distance - despite the sector 1 esses which resemble Suzuka's and also Mexico's. I could see a front row happening and we know how tough overtaking is here

Front row i think is a bit optimistic. We don't have a sprint race format here and we usually lose a bit of performance relatively to the comp. during the weekend.

If the pace isn't awful in the race i agree we could maybe keep position even against faster cars but the difference can't be as big as it was in Suzuka for instance. Also, it will require good strategy.

I don't think there's easy way to get strategy wrong. Last year the best strategy was by far the S-M or M-S which used C3 and C4. I think that's what everyone will do again: Medium to hard 1 stopper

It seems were are not terrible in race trim. Leclerc was the driver with the oldest M tyres (9 laps, Max and Carlos 8 laps old). Norris used a new medium according to the infograph.

Edit. Lewis M tyres were older than Lec.

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Car looks hooked up. Noticed Ferrari and Merc are both not sparking on the straight. Teams like Alphatauri, MCL are. Running high due to DSQ from last race I guess. More performance to be found if they can manage to lower.

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What if anything is Sainz struggling with?

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What if anything is Sainz struggling with?

Probably recovering from sickness ?

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Someone who watched the onboards said it sounded like Ferrari were experimenting still for most of FP3. Also got the fast runs at the end blocked by Haas

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Someone who watched the onboards said it sounded like Ferrari were experimenting still for most of FP3. Also got the fast runs at the end blocked by Haas

Haas and Stroll. Both ridiculous blocks.

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Someone who watched the onboards said it sounded like Ferrari were experimenting still for most of FP3. Also got the fast runs at the end blocked by Haas

Haas and Stroll. Both ridiculous blocks.

Indeed. Anything other than penalties would be a surprise.