2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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search wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 13:06
Wouter wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 12:51
When the SC came in Yuki's tyres were 23 laps old. Ric's 4 laps old. Both had 1 pitstop. Yuki got a new set during RF..
Yuki and Ricciardo both lost time to one pitstop. Same amount of time.
So you don't think Tsunoda was on a two stop strategy, Ricciardo on a one stop?
Why are you discussing this nonsense? They are in a completely different Tier as a driver.
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Wouter
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search wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 13:06
Wouter wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 12:51
When the SC came in Yuki's tyres were 23 laps old. Ric's 4 laps old. Both had 1 pitstop. Yuki got a new set during RF..
Yuki and Ricciardo both lost time to one pitstop. Same amount of time.
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So you don't think Tsunoda was on a two stop strategy, Ricciardo on a one stop?
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I don't know. They both started on the Medium and went to the Hard.
Yuki on a two stop strategy would mean M-H-S, but why? Faster than the M-H one stopper?
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Wouter wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 13:21
search wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 13:06
Wouter wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 12:51
When the SC came in Yuki's tyres were 23 laps old. Ric's 4 laps old. Both had 1 pitstop. Yuki got a new set during RF..
Yuki and Ricciardo both lost time to one pitstop. Same amount of time.
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So you don't think Tsunoda was on a two stop strategy, Ricciardo on a one stop?
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I don't know. They both started on the Medium and went to the Hard.
Yuki on a two stop strategy would mean M-H-S, but why? Faster than the M-H one stopper?
M-H-H I would think, like Verstappen had planed to, who even pitted first 10 laps later than Tsunoda.

I can't say for sure either, of course, but I doubt the first set of hard tires would have stayed competitive for 62 laps.

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yuki started dead last and dragged himself upto p8 on merit before redflag most people miss that in their criticism.if you start that far back the way to gain positions is by taking risks .he was a bit petulant and made silly mistake but they is alwalys next race,whats important is he shown pace thats what matters most for midfield driver hoping to move to bigger team

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Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 16:19
yuki started dead last and dragged himself upto p8 on merit before redflag most people miss that in their criticism.if you start that far back the way to gain positions is by taking risks .he was a bit petulant and made silly mistake but they is alwalys next race,whats important is he shown pace thats what matters most for midfield driver hoping to move to bigger team
While he drove well from where he started on lap 33 when the SC came out he was 10th and approx 15 secs behind Ricciardo.

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Both drove well. Yuki was clearly on a 2-stop before the red flag which benefited him when he could fit new tyres for the second phase for free and not lose the extra pitstop he'd have to take over everyone else. Conversely, the red flag hurt ricciardo who was likely going to finish P6 or perhaps P5 had the red flag not come out.

I think Yuki did well before his error while Daniel drove a perfect weekend and was just unfortunate on Sunday

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runningmanz wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 15:45
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Could we please stop offending Wouter for calling him trolling etc.? Let's bring back the coziness...

Although this was point wise the best result of the year one could argue what the relative performance was of RIC yesterday.

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Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 16:19
yuki started dead last and dragged himself upto p8 on merit before redflag most people miss that in their criticism.if you start that far back the way to gain positions is by taking risks .he was a bit petulant and made silly mistake but they is alwalys next race,whats important is he shown pace thats what matters most for midfield driver hoping to move to bigger team
Load of nonsense, neither dead last nor much merit, but more a whole lot of luck.
Stroll and sargeant started behind him, he gained some places at the start and passed like one car before having to pit because of front wing damage.
His quick stop then gave an offset tyre advantage to the people in front and clean air to close the gap to the pack. He did well to close that gap.
Then he gained positions up to 10th place by 3 overtakes and 6 pitstops. People who would mostly pass him as soon as he would need to make a 2nd stop.
He then lucked out with 2 more people pitting under SC, gaining him another 2 free places while getting his 2nd stop for free under the red flag.

He passed 3 cars on much older tyres (Am, Am, and alpine) to get from 19 to 8.

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Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 16:19
yuki started dead last and dragged himself upto p8 on merit before redflag most people miss that in their criticism.if you start that far back the way to gain positions is by taking risks .he was a bit petulant and made silly mistake but they is alwalys next race,whats important is he shown pace thats what matters most for midfield driver hoping to move to bigger team
In my opinion he is inferior to Daniil Kvyat for example to be honest, which means there is absolutely no reason for him to be accepted into a better team let alone into RedBull. His second problem is his attitude. On the radio he is too rude and overly explosive all the time. So far in his career he was barking loudly, but hardly did any proper biting.
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proteus wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 20:32
Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 16:19
yuki started dead last and dragged himself upto p8 on merit before redflag most people miss that in their criticism.if you start that far back the way to gain positions is by taking risks .he was a bit petulant and made silly mistake but they is alwalys next race,whats important is he shown pace thats what matters most for midfield driver hoping to move to bigger team
In my opinion he is inferior to Daniil Kvyat for example to be honest, which means there is absolutely no reason for him to be accepted into a better team let alone into RedBull. His second problem is his attitude. On the radio he is too rude and overly explosive all the time. So far in his career he was barking loudly, but hardly did any proper biting.
the only thing that matter in f1 is speed and speed only .yuki is a very fast driver.having altitude didnt stop Alonso from having a great career he participated in spygate at mclaren ,blackmailed ron and ultimately costing them hundred of millions.they rehired him destroyed the honda mac partnership but he still racing.yuki little rants are water under the bridge being amplified by the media for whatever reason .

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Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 23:39
proteus wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 20:32
Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 16:19
yuki started dead last and dragged himself upto p8 on merit before redflag most people miss that in their criticism.if you start that far back the way to gain positions is by taking risks .he was a bit petulant and made silly mistake but they is alwalys next race,whats important is he shown pace thats what matters most for midfield driver hoping to move to bigger team
In my opinion he is inferior to Daniil Kvyat for example to be honest, which means there is absolutely no reason for him to be accepted into a better team let alone into RedBull. His second problem is his attitude. On the radio he is too rude and overly explosive all the time. So far in his career he was barking loudly, but hardly did any proper biting.
the only thing that matter in f1 is speed and speed only .yuki is a very fast driver.having altitude didnt stop Alonso from having a great career he participated in spygate at mclaren ,blackmailed ron and ultimately costing them hundred of millions.they rehired him destroyed the honda mac partnership but he still racing.yuki little rants are water under the bridge being amplified by the media for whatever reason .
Speed only is not everything. You also need to have good racecraft which includes making good decisions under pressure which as we saw yesterday from Yuki was not displayed when he was pushing to pass Oscar.

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runningmanz wrote:
31 Oct 2023, 02:57
Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 23:39
proteus wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 20:32


In my opinion he is inferior to Daniil Kvyat for example to be honest, which means there is absolutely no reason for him to be accepted into a better team let alone into RedBull. His second problem is his attitude. On the radio he is too rude and overly explosive all the time. So far in his career he was barking loudly, but hardly did any proper biting.
the only thing that matter in f1 is speed and speed only .yuki is a very fast driver.having altitude didnt stop Alonso from having a great career he participated in spygate at mclaren ,blackmailed ron and ultimately costing them hundred of millions.they rehired him destroyed the honda mac partnership but he still racing.yuki little rants are water under the bridge being amplified by the media for whatever reason .
Speed only is not everything. You also need to have good racecraft which includes making good decisions under pressure which as we saw yesterday from Yuki was not displayed when he was pushing to pass Oscar.
yuki has great racecraft he always gain places during start he knows how to navigate around traffic.look at Norris on sunday he fumbled his 2nd start and drop a few places he is a good driver and they all make mistake at one point.even the great Max will still be occasionally crashing into the likes on ocon ,lewis if was not fighting at the top its just life at the limit.

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Yuki needs to work on his emotional control. The mouthful he gave his engineer after the crash, he caused, was not a once off. Also calling for Oscar to get a penalty when he was clearly at fault was pretty poor sportsmanship.
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you should read steward report before jumping to conclusion without enough evident.they both turned on one another at same time.basically yuki was taking the racing line while piatri was along side him,so i can understand yuki point of view .so what was piatri tying to achieve by turning on yuki.if yuki was on the wrong he would have been penalised for cause damage on the mclaren.

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Bill wrote:
31 Oct 2023, 07:06
you should read steward report before jumping to conclusion without enough evident.they both turned on one another at same time.basically yuki was taking the racing line while piatri was along side him,so i can understand yuki point of view .so what was piatri tying to achieve by turning on yuki.if yuki was on the wrong he would have been penalised for cause damage on the mclaren.
That makes no sense! You can’t take the racing line when there is already a a car there!

The main reason the stewards didn’t hand Yuki a penalty, was because he primarily ruined his own race.
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