2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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you can so long as you are ahead the guy behind should exercise judgement and back off .the same happened to lewis and max in silverstone 2019 then the whole long winded debate about who was ahead before corner ensue.piatri was being bone headed in his defence he should have done what ric did when he came across norris not fight too hard if u dont have pace.

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Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 23:39
proteus wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 20:32
Bill wrote:
30 Oct 2023, 16:19
yuki started dead last and dragged himself upto p8 on merit before redflag most people miss that in their criticism.if you start that far back the way to gain positions is by taking risks .he was a bit petulant and made silly mistake but they is alwalys next race,whats important is he shown pace thats what matters most for midfield driver hoping to move to bigger team
In my opinion he is inferior to Daniil Kvyat for example to be honest, which means there is absolutely no reason for him to be accepted into a better team let alone into RedBull. His second problem is his attitude. On the radio he is too rude and overly explosive all the time. So far in his career he was barking loudly, but hardly did any proper biting.
the only thing that matter in f1 is speed and speed only .yuki is a very fast driver.having altitude didnt stop Alonso from having a great career he participated in spygate at mclaren ,blackmailed ron and ultimately costing them hundred of millions.they rehired him destroyed the honda mac partnership but he still racing.yuki little rants are water under the bridge being amplified by the media for whatever reason .
Being quick from time to time is not enough. To finish first, first you have to finish. And Yuki hasnt showed anything special so far to be honest. Gasly destroyed him in those two seasons together, Lawson as a total rookie was much too close and it looks like Daniel might get more points to the end of the season as well. I would expect much more from Yuki in his third season, but is more or like the same with more screaming on the radio and little in terms of track performance. He is lucky that Honda funds his seat, otherwise he wouldnt be on the grid.
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Marko isn’t impressed by Yuki’s drive:
“Yuki was also fast, but he made not one but three stupid mistakes. He should have just finished eighth.”
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This topic was so quiet before.
I hope Yuki leaves the Red Bull family as soon as possible. I want to see it on AM

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Interesting to note AT have said with Dan's help they have unlocked more performance in the car now. This is similar to what they said at Renault in 2020 when they found the cars sweet spot with his help at Silverstone.

"AlphaTauri has detailed how a breakthrough in its car setup has enabled Daniel Ricciardo to exploit the untapped potential in the AT04."

"Head of Trackside Engineering, Jonathan Eddolls, says one of the main impacts Ricciardo made was changing the stability at the front end through high speed corners.

"One of his big limitations has been the front end coming back," Eddolls explained to media, including RacingNews365.

"The directions have been to improve the front end of the car for him, accepting the stability compromise.

"But that then impacts the tyre temperatures through the corner and throughout the lap."

This gave him greater confidence, something he lacked through the years at McLaren which eventually led to his performance deficit to Lando Norris."


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HPD wrote:
31 Oct 2023, 23:07
This topic was so quiet before.
I hope Yuki leaves the Red Bull family as soon as possible. I want to see it on AM
yuki carried the team when they were slowerst on the grid but they wasted his effort with --- strategy but now marko has the gail to question his mistake while they carry perez who makes mistakes every weekend even in practice its ridiculous.yuki has made his ambition be known that he want join redbull that means it clashes with Rics.some fans would just like yuki to shut up know his place and not ruffle any feathers and show ambition .his pace in last two race has been better than ric and that spoke others.yuki mistake was his first of season i think he just wanted not just score point but to beat Ric because in his mind that the target if you want to race for redbull.

rebull maybe the best team but nothing stay still in f1 .honda will leave in 2026 and newey is also at end of his career that's what he said.when newey was playing with boats they fell back.Redbull may build a good pu bit like renault not a great one.not being part of the rebull family maynot be a big loss ,merc was once believed to be invincible but look at them now they haven't even won a race.

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runningmanz wrote:
01 Nov 2023, 02:58
Interesting to note AT have said with Dan's help they have unlocked more performance in the car now. This is similar to what they said at Renault in 2020 when they found the cars sweet spot with his help at Silverstone.

"AlphaTauri has detailed how a breakthrough in its car setup has enabled Daniel Ricciardo to exploit the untapped potential in the AT04."

"Head of Trackside Engineering, Jonathan Eddolls, says one of the main impacts Ricciardo made was changing the stability at the front end through high speed corners.

"One of his big limitations has been the front end coming back," Eddolls explained to media, including RacingNews365.

"The directions have been to improve the front end of the car for him, accepting the stability compromise.

"But that then impacts the tyre temperatures through the corner and throughout the lap."

This gave him greater confidence, something he lacked through the years at McLaren which eventually led to his performance deficit to Lando Norris."


https://racingnews365.com/alphatauri-de ... o-to-shine
untapped potential its bs.the truth they were told to copy redbull ideas and work more with them thats were gains come from.an update in texas and singapore

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Bill wrote:
01 Nov 2023, 11:38
runningmanz wrote:
01 Nov 2023, 02:58
Interesting to note AT have said with Dan's help they have unlocked more performance in the car now. This is similar to what they said at Renault in 2020 when they found the cars sweet spot with his help at Silverstone.

"AlphaTauri has detailed how a breakthrough in its car setup has enabled Daniel Ricciardo to exploit the untapped potential in the AT04."

"Head of Trackside Engineering, Jonathan Eddolls, says one of the main impacts Ricciardo made was changing the stability at the front end through high speed corners.

"One of his big limitations has been the front end coming back," Eddolls explained to media, including RacingNews365.

"The directions have been to improve the front end of the car for him, accepting the stability compromise.

"But that then impacts the tyre temperatures through the corner and throughout the lap."

This gave him greater confidence, something he lacked through the years at McLaren which eventually led to his performance deficit to Lando Norris."


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untapped potential its bs.the truth they were told to copy redbull ideas and work more with them thats were gains come from.an update in texas and singapore
Right, so your opinion matters more because you work for the team? Didn’t think so.
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Metaphorically speaking, I don't think there's inference that DR is going to "get on the tools" and fix the car how he wants it. But there's, in my view, considerable store in his ability to know what the chassis needs to do to be fast. He's very clearly demonstrated that with his past performance leading GP wins. Applied well that's a very valuable contribution to any team.

I didn't think at all that his driving ability had finished/diminished, while looking forward to exactly this scenario of being given the chance in a low pressure environment to show where he is.

The raw reality is that Yuki consumately fails to "close" out his undoubted pace consistently in absolutely nailing results from many situation. THAT quality is absolutely needed to gain graduation into RB lead team. Speed CAN be there, but actioning it successfully, then no. Demonstrated again, frustratingly, in the race, such a good performance up until he binned it into Piastri.

Notably, DR out qualifying both McL cars Mexico demonstrates exactly his qualifications in putting speed and calm application to the circumstances of this qualifying day. That's a significant part of his race driver performance, that many many drivers show they don’t have.

Yes, it'll be up and down from race to race as he and the team explore each other's capacity to perform, eminently valid to have him in the car for next season.

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The Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez is about 2.2 kilometers above sea level, and that creates a lower air density.
Each F1 powerplant reacts differently to that low air density. All in all, thin air results in less power because a car's turbocharger
has to work harder to keep the air pressure in the engine constant. But the Honda engine's turbocharger in particular does that better than those of its competitors, multiple data sources show. Jonathan Eddolls, Chief Race Engineer at AlphaTauri, confirms that.

"We know the Honda engine is strong and has good driveability. And I think it handles these altitudes well, whereas other teams
suffer some performance losses in Mexico compared to Grand Prix weekends that take place at normal altitudes."

Ricciardo clocked a top speed of 353.8 kilometers per hour in his AlphaTauri during speed measurements during Saturday qualifying
in Mexico. This put the Australian stiffly at the top of the list of top speeds.
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Bill wrote:
01 Nov 2023, 11:38
runningmanz wrote:
01 Nov 2023, 02:58
Interesting to note AT have said with Dan's help they have unlocked more performance in the car now. This is similar to what they said at Renault in 2020 when they found the cars sweet spot with his help at Silverstone.

"AlphaTauri has detailed how a breakthrough in its car setup has enabled Daniel Ricciardo to exploit the untapped potential in the AT04."

"Head of Trackside Engineering, Jonathan Eddolls, says one of the main impacts Ricciardo made was changing the stability at the front end through high speed corners.

"One of his big limitations has been the front end coming back," Eddolls explained to media, including RacingNews365.

"The directions have been to improve the front end of the car for him, accepting the stability compromise.

"But that then impacts the tyre temperatures through the corner and throughout the lap."

This gave him greater confidence, something he lacked through the years at McLaren which eventually led to his performance deficit to Lando Norris."


https://racingnews365.com/alphatauri-de ... o-to-shine
untapped potential its bs.the truth they were told to copy redbull ideas and work more with them thats were gains come from.an update in texas and singapore
Yet the team have said Dan's input has been invaluable and they unlocked a setup that allows him to push the car and its more predictable every lap. I think the team know more than you. Also this is not the first time a team has said with Dan's input the were able to unlock a cars potential and allow him to push it.

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cmon the lap that yuki did in singapore was quiker than all four honda powered car and lawson outqualified both rbr car so its obvious that car has good mechanical grip and redbull does not work well in street tracks intil your get tires up to temperature.

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AlphaTauri's head of track engineering, Jonathan Eddolls, explained what changed between Austin and Mexico City which gave Ricciardo a clear leap in quality from the first free practice session last weekend.
Eddolls: "We see that Ricciardo drives the car differently than other drivers we have worked with, and also compared to Yuki. The way he approaches the corners, the way he brakes. His driving style is different."
Eddolls: "In Austin we put Ricciardo back on the Tsunoda set-up because Daniel had been missing in the car for some time and the car, in the meantime, has evolved a lot on an aerodynamic level. Its characteristics have changed."
Eddolls: "Then he was stuck in that set-up due to the Parc Fermé, and that was his problem in Austin. We came away knowing that he probably had a lot more performance to extract from the package that, however, we didn't have the opportunity to unlock."
Eddolls: "Using the Mexican weekend with the classic format allowed us to spend most of Friday working on different set-ups, so as to try to unlock more potential from the car based on Daniel's driving style."
Eddolls: "We're not talking about big numbers, but we can see differences in the way he drives. And he sets lap times in different parts of the corner than the others. So the car had several weaknesses compared to the way Yuki drives it."
Eddolls: "One of his big limitations was related to the front end. So the set-up indications were targeted there and we were able to improve that aspect of the car for him."
: "I believe that Daniel will continue with that set-up. But let's not forget that Yuki was also strong. Also because he lost Free Practice 1 to give up the wheel to Isack Hadjar".
"With the Soft tires in Free Practice 2, Yuki had a pace very similar to Ricciardo's. The direction we took with the set-up didn't just help Daniel. I can't speak for McLaren, but our car behaves in a stable way. Maybe we don't have enough downforce or aerodynamic efficiency that some top teams have, but we don't have any major or specific problems with the car. The AT04 basically does the same thing every lap, corner after corner. And that has given Daniel enough confidence to drive in a certain way.""

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Some more interesting statements from the team in this article regarding the development direction.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alph ... /10541059/

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Dan thinks we should be ok in Brazil and thinks its possible now for the team to catch up to Williams.

"When asked if AlphaTauri can set its sights on catching Williams, Ricciardo told media including RacingNews365.com: “If this weekend continues, absolutely.

“It's hard to know. Brazil is a very different track but it's similar, It's still at altitude, you still run pretty high downforce.

“Maybe it could help us. Let's see. Vegas, who knows. A lot of long straights, so we got to be a little more slippery than we normally are.

“But I think for Brazil next week we could be okay.”


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