The EPS foam in helmets is amongst the best materials available in terms of energy absorption across a wide temperature range.ringo wrote:A redesign on the helmets is the next most logical thing; i am thinking of bullet proof visors and an extended forehead on the helmet. The extended part would be made of impact energy absorbing material, something more pliant than what the rest of the helmet is made of.
i would suggest heart rate monitors in the car and eye movement detectors, this way the team will know how their driver is doing and they should be able to wirelessly stop the car in the event of an accident. This would be the only time the teams would have any feedback control of the car.
Remember everyone laughing at Ferrari when they had the lights system and it so gloriously failed them so many times? There is a point where you start to make thing too complicated, and any restraining system to stop a car can, and will malfunction and cause more trouble than it's worth. There is probably nothing anyone could have done now, or in the past and future that would prevent this without making another area of driver safety more risky. I don't know how to stop this, there may be no way to do it.The FOZ wrote: The EPS foam in helmets is amongst the best materials available in terms of energy absorption across a wide temperature range.
As I stated in the discussion about Surtees, it wouldn't take another inch or two of EPS to have absorbed the impact energy, it would have taken several inches. Several feet, in the case of Surtees. At which point, the argument is, ok, now we have this monstrous helmet that's more likely to get caught on things, are we really better off?
The notion of any system to stop the car can be put aside right now. I can think of far too many instances of "helpful" systems failing in the past season or two alone; putting such a system on the car's brakes would be asking for serious trouble. Again, would we be better off with a system like that? Not in my view.
In that video I posted the telemetry thingy shows right after impact that both throttle and brake are being pushed to the maximum till the impact with the tires.jason.parker.86 wrote:He simply gets hit, sparked out and his body relaxes and picks up speed. Maybe with his foot on both brake and throttle because of the skid marks
They should be banned from this event immediately!!!autosport wrote:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77281
Q. Can you tell us what happened with your rear suspension in that session?
Rubens Barrichello: I lost the whole central damper of the car. The car this morning had a lot of fuel and it felt quite good. This afternoon it felt a bit strange, vertically the car was moving a bit. And we suspected since the beginning of qualifying that it was starting to go. Eventually it went completely on that lap, because I had a lap of traffic which I had to abort and that lap, as soon as I braked for Turn 1, it was very, very bad. I still did an okay time through sector one, but when I went into Turn 3 I felt the rear collapse.
I had no control over the rear suspension; it was like it was solid. It was then that I radioed and said I was coming in. It felt like I lost a big chunk of ride height because the car was touching the ground, and on the TV from the videos it looks like that was what went into Felipe's head. The whole thing just went bang.
Q. Did the thing break or did it just come undone?
RB: No, it broke.
The FOZ wrote:The EPS foam in helmets is amongst the best materials available in terms of energy absorption across a wide temperature range.ringo wrote:A redesign on the helmets is the next most logical thing; i am thinking of bullet proof visors and an extended forehead on the helmet. The extended part would be made of impact energy absorbing material, something more pliant than what the rest of the helmet is made of.
i would suggest heart rate monitors in the car and eye movement detectors, this way the team will know how their driver is doing and they should be able to wirelessly stop the car in the event of an accident. This would be the only time the teams would have any feedback control of the car.
As I stated in the discussion about Surtees, it wouldn't take another inch or two of EPS to have absorbed the impact energy, it would have taken several inches. Several feet, in the case of Surtees. At which point, the argument is, ok, now we have this monstrous helmet that's more likely to get caught on things, are we really better off?
The notion of any system to stop the car can be put aside right now. I can think of far too many instances of "helpful" systems failing in the past season or two alone; putting such a system on the car's brakes would be asking for serious trouble. Again, would we be better off with a system like that? Not in my view.
I doubt it, but I suspect he was hitting the rev limiter! I dont really know how Massa drives, but would he use one foot for the brake and one for the throttle?Would the car automatically go into neutral when it hits something?
He is extremely lucky to be alive right now given the nature of the debris strike -- we know that much. It seems he was knocked out cold at the wheel.jason.parker.86 wrote: Either way I think had that been at any other part of the race track he would be dead or even worse killed another driver! What would happen if he was coming down the straight at 250mph and went head first into the wall!!!