2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

[SmallSoldier]

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/norr ... s-showing/

Good read.

I read a comment by a reader on another article from ‘the race’ who likened Piastris current form is akin to his compatriot who he replace which I think is mighty harsh on Oscar. He’s a rookie and the drive he replaced had 10? Years experience when he went to McLaren? It’s not a fair comparison if you ask me.

It's an interesting take. Last year Lando got 122 points to his partners 37. This year Oscar is around about half the points of Lando, his race pace having dropped off a little over the last few races.

In Lando's first season he got around half the points of Carlos Sainz, the next season Lando was close to Sainz on points. So you'd like to think that year 5 Lando is significantly better than Year 2 Lando. With that in mind, Oscar's points haul in his first year is pretty damn good if you consider that Lando is on race pace one of the best.

Personally I am unconcerned with his trajectory, it is clear that he is growing very fast.

Edit: I just looked at the results and others may be being harsh on Piatsri, his finishes recently have been OK, and overall he has had 3 retirements to Lando's 0.

https://i.ibb.co/SBSBtJ6/Screenshot-202 ... 140333.png

Also the sprint weekends hinder a rookies learning considerably these last 2 seasons so will effect their overall points total. Oscars rookie season has been at a disadvantage compared to Landos rookie season… like ever we can’t directly compare

You are right, making comparisons between drivers using “points” from different seasons to argue performance it’s flawed… Unluckily looking at just points takes all context out of the analysis, more importantly the car performance in those season versus the rest of the grid… Today, getting a good result and good amount of points with the current MCL60 is easier than last season, similar could be argued of the MCL34 which was only an upper midfield car… And that could be applicable to any pairing of drivers.

Oscar is doing a great job for a rookie and it’s showing glimpses of excellence at the same time… He has had great weekends and not so great ones, more experience will simply help reduce the gap between the good days and the bad ones.

[FittingMechanics]

Seems that most people will do two stops with two stints on softs. Most people on used soft for the start - even though they have it.

I guess that is one less.

[Darth-Piekus]

I havent seen someone end his race since Coulthard back in 2001.

[mwillems]

It's an interesting take. Last year Lando got 122 points to his partners 37. This year Oscar is around about half the points of Lando, his race pace having dropped off a little over the last few races.

In Lando's first season he got around half the points of Carlos Sainz, the next season Lando was close to Sainz on points. So you'd like to think that year 5 Lando is significantly better than Year 2 Lando. With that in mind, Oscar's points haul in his first year is pretty damn good if you consider that Lando is on race pace one of the best.

Personally I am unconcerned with his trajectory, it is clear that he is growing very fast.

Edit: I just looked at the results and others may be being harsh on Piatsri, his finishes recently have been OK, and overall he has had 3 retirements to Lando's 0.

https://i.ibb.co/SBSBtJ6/Screenshot-202 ... 140333.png

Also the sprint weekends hinder a rookies learning considerably these last 2 seasons so will effect their overall points total. Oscars rookie season has been at a disadvantage compared to Landos rookie season… like ever we can’t directly compare

You are right, making comparisons between drivers using “points” from different seasons to argue performance it’s flawed… Unluckily looking at just points takes all context out of the analysis, more importantly the car performance in those season versus the rest of the grid… Today, getting a good result and good amount of points with the current MCL60 is easier than last season, similar could be argued of the MCL34 which was only an upper midfield car… And that could be applicable to any pairing of drivers.

Oscar is doing a great job for a rookie and it’s showing glimpses of excellence at the same time… He has had great weekends and not so great ones, more experience will simply help reduce the gap between the good days and the bad ones.

Yes it is flawed, but that doesn't mean you can ignore it either, you simply can't make a definitive statement. None the less, you can certainly see that there is a lot of reason to look at this year in a positive light.

[mwillems]

Amazing start from Lando!

[FittingMechanics]

Damn what a start.

Now we have a race. Let's see whether we can push Verstappen.

[Slahinki]

What a mega start by Norris! Wow!

[Ben1980]

Piastri hit.

[Marc.W]

P6 to P2 before T1, amazing start

[SmallSoldier]

Did luck finally favored us a bit today?… Great run from Lando, all damage done in Qualifying is now mute

[FittingMechanics]

Piastri was hit in the rear.

Rear wing was flexing heavily, very close.

[sjy1969]

Oscar out

[Xero]

Amazing start from Lando!

Dream start. Now he can fight Max.

Oscar out with broken rear wing, such bad luck!

[organic]

Piastri damaged yea

[sjy1969]

Or maybe not...
Red flag