Hungarian GP 2009 - Hungaroring

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Briatore is not waiting for Piquet to finish...

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joseff
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At least Nelson Sr. has emotional support from Niki Lauda lol

Congratulations to Lewis & McLaren, first hybrid car to win F1.

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zgred
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Congrats to Hamilton and MacLaren - for the first time I felt kind of sympathy to our F1 Champ.

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djos
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A good recovery for Webbo from a botched pit stop to finish 3rd for his 4th straight podium of the season and he now sits 2nd in the WDC with 4.5 points in hand over Vettel! =D> 8)

Congrats to Lewis, he drove an awesome race .... that said I still hate KERS, Webbo would have won that race otherwise! :x
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ringo
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Whatever happened to the "most complete driver" lol :lol:
Webber for champ and Hamilton to win the other 7 8)

Fantastic drive by the 2008champ, i knew he would do it some time this year, the start and that pass on webber was the critical point of the race.
For all the people who said he hasnt won in an inferior car like Senna or Shumacher, you can check that off on his list of accomplishments and being the first to win in a hybrid car.

I feel bad for alonso though, he would not have won, but he would have made points. Vettel got what Webber did to Hamilton last race, its kind of ironic but very unfortunate.

Its seem Webber is the better driver statistically now. Wonder what the team are thinking, favour webber for champ since he has better starts and race consistency?
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djos
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ringo wrote: Its seem Webber is the better driver statistically now. Wonder what the team are thinking, favour webber for champ since he has better starts and race consistency?
I would say so, Webber has finished every race this year with only 2 non-points finishes to Vettel's 4 (inc 2 retirements) and one of Webbo's non-points results was due to him being baulked in Q1 by a blind FI driver!

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<--- my 500'th post here, took me a while but I got there eventually. :lol:
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ringo
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Oh yeah can't leave out Heiki, he was struggling with overheating of the brakes and had to compromise his brake balance, good result also!!
That race was phenomenal, the look on Whitmarsh's face was the same as on Webber's last race, a weight was lifted. :mrgreen:

And for all the Kimi fans, he takes the cake for most aggressive, nothing hamilton did can compare to what this guy did in this race. He spoiled it for Vettel and RBR, and had it not been for Lewis keeping a cool head Kimi would have foiled his race also, Kimi should be penalized.
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djos
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ringo wrote:Oh yeah can't leave out Heiki, he was struggling with overheating of the brakes and had to compromise his brake balance, good result also!!
That race was phenomenal, the look on Whitmarsh's face was the same as on Webber's last race, a weight was lifted. :mrgreen:

And for all the Kimi fans, he takes the cake for most aggressive, nothing hamilton did can compare to what this guy did in this race. He spoiled it for Vettel and RBR, and had it not been for Lewis keeping a cool head Kimi would have foiled his race also, Kimi should be penalized.
IF (and it's a big one) the stewards are going to be consistent Kimi should get a "drive thru" equiv penalty (25secs from memory) when the stewards review his coming together with Vettel as Vettel's car actually sustained damage and retired as a result of the contact. (unlike Webber's contact with Barichello in Germany which had no impact on the race at all).

If they do penalise Kimi, Webbo with move to second place.
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Probably so. But you have to consider that the Ferrari was squeezed between two other cars twice there (at the start and after T1). Unlike Webber who had the whole track to himself which classified that accident as avoidable. Plus don't forget that Webber could well be penilized for very dangerous driving at the pitlane (a mistake by the team mostly).

PS: I'm personally very happy that Webber is in best position now to challenge Button for the title!

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ringo
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All kimi had to do was brake and concede position, that's was the right thing to do, he made a gamble and lost.
The ferrari deserved to be squeezed, did you see how he charged over from left to right at the Mclaren?
That was completely unnecessary and should be considered in the penalty. If lewis did that he would have been penalized instantly. And you would not hear the end of it for the next 2 years.
Kimi did not have to be in that position had he not driven like a lunatic, it was obvious that he was trying to make Lewis crash on the straight. What he did to Vettel was a desperate maneuver to stay close to the Mclaren and cause more trouble.
Watch the first moments in the race and keep an eye on Kimi's movements.

I don't like that guy named Kimi, ferrari need to lose him. As bad as Alonso is, he is not a jerk on the track.

Kimi raced well, but he would not have been up so far if vettel had a fair chance.
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ringo wrote:All kimi had to do was brake and concede position, that's was the right thing to do, he made a gamble and lost.
The ferrari deserved to be squeezed, did you see how he charged over from left to right at the Mclaren?
That was completely unnecessary and should be considered in the penalty. If lewis did that he would have been penalized instantly. And you would not hear the end of it for the next 2 years.
Kimi did not have to be in that position had he not driven like a lunatic, it was obvious that he was trying to make Lewis crash on the straight. What he did to Vettel was a desperate maneuver to stay close to the Mclaren and cause more trouble.
Watch the first moments in the race and keep an eye on Kimi's movements.

I don't like that guy named Kimi, ferrari need to lose him. As bad as Alonso is, he is not a jerk on the track.

Kimi raced well, but he would not have been up so far if vettel had a fair chance.
and i bet you are a mclaren fan?
Kimi had to go in such direction, else he was pushed out of the race.
It was a big fight in the first turn and such things happen, no1 did anything wrong. Afterall it is the Red Bulls that deserve the penalty more, now they make chance of the title they start palying dirty, im getting sick of them. Webbers action in the pit lane is a action that deserves a penalty, as a matte rof fact, what sohuld have happened if they collided? the people at the pit wall and who were outside then have their lifes in danger, only because red bull had to play dirty
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Kimi was too busy trying to collect the rear end, if you watch the footage you can see him sliding a bit.

I don't think he did anything wrong, there is so much wheel banging into the first corners in most races and I can't see why this is particularly different.

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The FIA should mandate all drivers to retire safely when it is obvious that their wheels are not securely fastened. You cannot have them drive around with wheels most likely to bounce all over the place. Alonso should get a reprimand for unsafe driving. I remember the outcry when Kimi drove with a dangling bit of exhaust. This was much more dangerous. All that situations where a driver can be hit by debris need to be treated more seriously.
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so lads, i didnt see the race -ugh work
are the big boys back! fearri, mclaren and renault?
or just a one off
If so this plays into buttons hands as long as they keep vettel and webber off the podum hes pritty much sorted.

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hulmerist
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didn't the same kind of thing happen to alonso in 06? pretty unlucky

the pace of hamilton though...jesus...faster than the red bulls and a brilliant move on webber to prove it

can't believe there is gonna be more to come from that machine

what a car!!!