2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:37
Bill_Kar wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:33
organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:23
Motorsport-total report that the deal was struck in April/may via handshake. We heard about Lewis meeting with Elkann at Monaco GP weekend at the time but it was brushed off as the usual contract negotiation tactics (look for competitive offers elsewhere as a bargaining chip)

Apparently it was all signed on paper in August.

I believe Lewis and his management decided 31st Jan because that was date he'd see Toto Wolff in person before the season starts.

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... s-24020110
If that’s true, why wait for 2025 ?
Sainz contract to end of '24 so Lewis signed a 1+1 but no intention to fulfill the 2nd year option.. just merc didnt know that. If Lewis told Merc he wanted only 1yr extension because he's off in a year then Merc wouldn't be very inclined to give Lewis a £50m contract for 2024 to be honest
Damn...
Toto was playing checkers, Ferrari and Hamilton were playing chess :shock:

Truly taken to school if true.

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Duchessa claiming some mind boggling numbers now.


100mil a year including salary, sponsors, image rights, bonuses and more for Lewis
Contracts expiring in '26 for both - with Leclerc having a +2 extension option

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-hamilton-gu ... trategico/

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CaribouBread wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:02
Duchessa claiming some mind boggling numbers now.


100mil a year including salary, sponsors, image rights, bonuses and more for Lewis
Contracts expiring in '26 for both - with Leclerc having a +2 extension option

https://formu1a.uno/ferrari-hamilton-gu ... trategico/
Elkann apparently also threw $400mil at Lewis' projects and made him a Ferrari ambassador when Merc didn't want to


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The large numbers I was hearing are accurate. Wow. Elkann went all in on Lewis

Over 100 million euro salary. Ferrari power

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Sevach wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:59
organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:37
Bill_Kar wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:33


If that’s true, why wait for 2025 ?
Sainz contract to end of '24 so Lewis signed a 1+1 but no intention to fulfill the 2nd year option.. just merc didnt know that. If Lewis told Merc he wanted only 1yr extension because he's off in a year then Merc wouldn't be very inclined to give Lewis a £50m contract for 2024 to be honest
Damn...
Toto was playing checkers, Ferrari and Hamilton were playing chess :shock:

Truly taken to school if true.
Indeed. With the numbers being floated about, Merc’s bluff was called.

Althought considering that Hamilton put out a statement with Toto claiming that he wasn’t negotiating with anyone else it seems odd.
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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 14:23
Motorsport-total report that the deal was struck in April/may via handshake. We heard about Lewis meeting with Elkann at Monaco GP weekend at the time but it was brushed off as the usual contract negotiation tactics (look for competitive offers elsewhere as a bargaining chip)

Apparently it was all signed on paper in August.

I believe Lewis and his management decided 31st Jan because that was date he'd see Toto Wolff in person before the season starts.

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... s-24020110
I was expecting the foundations of this deal were made a long time ago, however I don't think it was confirmed until recently, the Ferrari announcement was rather bland and way too simple. Or Vasseur and Elkann wanted to play it so it looks like it was agreed in 2-3 days to maximise the element of surprise for the whole public, well outside the F1 world. Will be interesting to learn of all the details, it was definitely long in the making, whether it was fully agreed months ago or it was up to Lewis to give his confirmation and activate the contract later.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Luscion wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:06

Elkann apparently also threw $400mil at Lewis' projects and made him a Ferrari ambassador when Merc didn't want to
So all in all, Ferrari are in for over half a billion dollars for Lewis. Elkann is swinging that Agnelli/Ferrari d... around :lol: Thats about the same money as RedBull is getting from Oracle with its 5 year title sponsorship.

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CaribouBread wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:16
Luscion wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:06

Elkann apparently also threw $400mil at Lewis' projects and made him a Ferrari ambassador when Merc didn't want to
So all in all, Ferrari are in for over half a billion dollars for Lewis. Elkann is swinging that Agnelli/Ferrari d... around :lol: Thats about the same money as RedBull is getting from Oracle with its 5 year title sponsorship.
The source on the $400m thing seems a bit dubious to me

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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:17
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The source on the $400m thing seems a bit dubious to me
Yeah I'm not fully onboard with it until someone else corroborates, can't take too long. But still, big numbers fun to think about. :mrgreen:

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Formu1a uno:
The arrival of Lewis Hamilton is also welcomed by Charles Leclerc , who was informed of the possibility. We heard that the Monegasque is very happy, seeing this arrival in Maranello as an important and stimulating challenge to face, interpreting the Ferrari move in a positive way and not as something negative or limiting towards him.
In fact, both Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton formally expire in 2026, with the Monegasque holding the option to renew for another two years. The objective is to wait for the feedback from the first car of the new regulatory cycle and then the future will be decided from there, but this is a discussion that will be valid not only for Ferrari. On an economic level, the Monegasque's contract is an 'upward' contract , with a fixed base that will increase from year to year. Lewis Hamilton, on the other hand, will earn - between salary, sponsors, image rights, bonuses and more - around 100 million dollars a year

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organic wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:23
Formu1a uno:
The arrival of Lewis Hamilton is also welcomed by Charles Leclerc , who was informed of the possibility. We heard that the Monegasque is very happy, seeing this arrival in Maranello as an important and stimulating challenge to face, interpreting the Ferrari move in a positive way and not as something negative or limiting towards him.
Good attitude if true, the only appropriate attitude in this situation to be honest. Of course, it's all smiles on the outside, but he will be in a mood to run circles around Hamilton on track. He will need that mentality if he wants to come out on top against Hamilton.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Hamilton in Ferrari :sick:

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CaribouBread wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:16
Luscion wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:06

Elkann apparently also threw $400mil at Lewis' projects and made him a Ferrari ambassador when Merc didn't want to
So all in all, Ferrari are in for over half a billion dollars for Lewis. Elkann is swinging that Agnelli/Ferrari d... around :lol: Thats about the same money as RedBull is getting from Oracle with its 5 year title sponsorship.
Ferrari investors already made $7 billion profit from this deal.. so its like a investment

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Hope ferrari built a rocketship for 25 and 26.. last great ferrari rocketship was the f2007 & f2008.. a ferrari rocketship in Lewis 's hands will be spectacular

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Henri wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 16:40
CaribouBread wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:16
Luscion wrote:
02 Feb 2024, 15:06

Elkann apparently also threw $400mil at Lewis' projects and made him a Ferrari ambassador when Merc didn't want to
So all in all, Ferrari are in for over half a billion dollars for Lewis. Elkann is swinging that Agnelli/Ferrari d... around :lol: Thats about the same money as RedBull is getting from Oracle with its 5 year title sponsorship.
Ferrari investors already made $7 billion profit from this deal.. so its like a investment
The change in stock price was related to the fiscal summary end of Q4 which came out at 12.15 CET yesterday Image

the previous summary released caused Ferrari's price to spike a similar amount (~ +10%) so it's very normal
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