Red Bull RB20

A place to discuss the characteristics of the cars in Formula One, both current as well as historical. Laptimes, driver worshipping and team chatter do not belong here.
Farnborough
Farnborough
101
Joined: 18 Mar 2023, 14:15

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:04
f1jcw wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 22:59
If those inlets are real, either they have some impressive cooling system or some Hondas are going to go boom
Actually they look not much smaller than last years on some pics. The true size will only be seen in the tests and I bet that they will actually be similar to those of 2023. Everyone is just boiling water and no one can do magic.
AN is acutely aware of power unit heat rejection performance.....specifically making the choice of Renault over a Ferrari unit on this metric some years ago. They were contracted to run Ferrari, which they bumped into Torro Rosso to facilitate that contracted use.

Can't see it being an issue now.

Henk_v
Henk_v
86
Joined: 24 Feb 2022, 13:41

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

You can clearly see there is litterally a Black box around the edge wing.

If this was a full dummy car, that does not make sense.

FNTC
FNTC
7
Joined: 03 Nov 2023, 21:27

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Maybe it has a combination of the shark mouth inlets and the vertical ones. There is a vertical line there on the 3D model, but no inlets, only the shark mouths. And it did appear to have the vertical inlets on the blurry Silverstone pictures.
Last edited by FNTC on 15 Feb 2024, 23:20, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Vanja #66
1571
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Everyone, please smile and wave to all the RB engineers reading this thread and having a good laugh :mrgreen: Cheers, chaps :)

Image

PS No, we haven't yet seen the true solution to the full extent and no, the car running the other day is not the mockup shown today
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

Andi76
Andi76
431
Joined: 03 Feb 2021, 20:19

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Farnborough wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:12
Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:04
f1jcw wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 22:59
If those inlets are real, either they have some impressive cooling system or some Hondas are going to go boom


Actually they look not much smaller than last years on some pics. The true size will only be seen in the tests and I bet that they will actually be similar to those of 2023. Everyone is just boiling water and no one can do magic.
AN is acutely aware of power unit heat rejection performance.....specifically making the choice of Renault over a Ferrari unit on this metric some years ago. They were contracted to run Ferrari, which they bumped into Torro Rosso to facilitate that contracted use.

Can't see it being an issue now.
And you think other F1 engineers are not, but only Newey? I very much doubt that, because that's part of the little 1x1 of race car design....

And Renault from back then is a bad example, because as AN himself said, F1 was marketing for Renault back then. That is certainly not the case with Ferrari or Mercedes and also not for Renault today even if the latter are a little behind in some areas.

geraldix
geraldix
5
Joined: 01 Feb 2013, 14:22

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Is it me or this entire highlighted area acts as some sort of giant NACA duct?

Image

Sevach
Sevach
1081
Joined: 07 Jun 2012, 17:00

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 22:49
Andi76 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 22:46
organic wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 22:39
Im going to wait until Bahrain but they certainly were not conservative, contrary to what Horner Adrian and Waché were saying..
I would say they indeed were conservative, because apart from the sidepod inlet it's actually a very conservative evolution. And I doubt whether Over instead of Underbite will change that much.
The nose, sidepod inlet, engine cover are very different and we haven't seen the floor yet. I can't see how this is conservative.
RB18-> RB19 was conservative.
The RB19 was essentially the RB18 lightweight chassis that they developed for 2022 but felt no need to use.

This pushes the envelope in several areas.

Chmielinski
Chmielinski
4
Joined: 16 Apr 2018, 17:41

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Vanja #66 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:20
Everyone, please smile and wave to all the RB engineers reading this thread and having a good laugh :mrgreen: Cheers, chaps :)

https://64.media.tumblr.com/a5ce40269a9 ... 3_500.gifv

PS No, we haven't yet seen the true solution to the full extent and no, the car running the other day is not the mockup shown today
The car shown today was not a mockup. It clearly had the right sidepods and the floor edge was crudely covered to hide the detail.

Xyz22
Xyz22
123
Joined: 16 Feb 2022, 20:05

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

RB18 to RB19 was not conservative at all.

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Xyz22 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:25
RB18 to RB19 was not conservative at all.
Compared to RB19 -> RB20, it was to me.
A lion must kill its prey.

dialtone
dialtone
121
Joined: 25 Feb 2019, 01:31

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
Xyz22 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:25
RB18 to RB19 was not conservative at all.
Compared to RB19 -> RB20, it was to me.
If RB20 is a huge change we haven’t seen that change yet. So far it’s a lip and maybe a sidepod intake.

FNTC
FNTC
7
Joined: 03 Nov 2023, 21:27

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

From Chris Medland on X: Image
There appears to be an air exit hole from the sidepod/chassis right below the H in Honda there too.

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

dialtone wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:30
AR3-GP wrote:
Xyz22 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:25
RB18 to RB19 was not conservative at all.
Compared to RB19 -> RB20, it was to me.
If RB20 is a huge change we haven’t seen that change yet. So far it’s a lip and maybe a sidepod intake.
Nose, sidepod inlet, engine cover, rear wing, suspension, vertical duct, trailing edge water slide, floor edge that they hid, and the underfloor. A car that they have been working on since last summer, before anyone else.

This is "a lip and maybe a sidepod intake" :lol: .
Last edited by AR3-GP on 15 Feb 2024, 23:37, edited 1 time in total.
A lion must kill its prey.

User avatar
Vanja #66
1571
Joined: 19 Mar 2012, 16:38

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

Chmielinski wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 23:25
The car shown today was not a mockup. It clearly had the right sidepods and the floor edge was crudely covered to hide the detail.
Correct, my bad. Have only seen the studio photos from a rear angle now and they do indeed show the same g-line as the car running in shakedown.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
#BlessYouLaddie

FNTC
FNTC
7
Joined: 03 Nov 2023, 21:27

Re: Red Bull RB20

Post

https://racer.com/2024/02/15/red-bull-s ... e-on-rb20/

Horner:
“I think there’s some great innovation on the car as well, which will no doubt get scrutinized over the coming weeks. Creativity has been strong in the team and you can see that in some of the solutions that they’ve come up with. It’s not a conservative evolution — there’s some great innovation on this car.”