2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Timtim99]

RBR clearly have a bit up their sleeve. Do think Ferrari looks best of the rest at least at first glance. But caution as always because everyone running different. programs etc.
Excited for next weekend to see where the performance really sits.

How do you know? RB is best if the rest?

[SoulPancake13]

So any insights from day 3? Is the tire deg improvements that we saw yesterday still holding true ?

I'd say so, Charles definitely pushed harder today than Sainz did yesterday to test the limits of the deg, but it didn't look that bad

[Schippke]

So any insights from day 3? Is the tire deg improvements that we saw yesterday still holding true ?

Unfortunately we didn't get to see Charle's final stint of Race Simulation as Race Control was testing their systems, but overall the degradation in comparison to the first sting (both on C3) was about the same. Charles started the stint a bit slower, but Sainz was quite quick at the start so probably took more out of the tyre earlier on... so levels out being about the same, though better for Charles overall.

2nd Stint was on a different tyre (Sainz C2/LeClerc C1) with the C1 being the better longer run tyre - Sainz 2nd sting was all in the low-mid 37's so very consistent, whilst Charles run on the C1 was close to a second faster a the start, however showed a noticeable bit of degradation towards the end - Might be due to the fact he was lapping significantly faster, but even compared to the softer C2, was expecting it to last a bit longer than that... probably trialing extremes in terms of pace in the stint.

If comparing to the SF23 though, it's literally night and day... so looking good moving forward in the battle for P2 in the WCC!

[CouncilorIrissa]

Well, this pre-season went as good as it gets if you don't have a spaceship (RB20). Great job by the team.

[Xyz22]

So any insights from day 3? Is the tire deg improvements that we saw yesterday still holding true ?

Compared to 1 year ago we are in a much much better place in race trim.

[AR3-GP]

So any insights from day 3? Is the tire deg improvements that we saw yesterday still holding true ?

Unfortunately we didn't get to see Charle's final stint of Race Simulation as Race Control was testing their systems, but overall the degradation in comparison to the first sting (both on C3) was about the same. Charles started the stint a bit slower, but Sainz was quite quick at the start so probably took more out of the tyre earlier on... so levels out being about the same, though better for Charles overall.

2nd Stint was on a different tyre (Sainz C2/LeClerc C1) with the C1 being the better longer run tyre - Sainz 2nd sting was all in the low-mid 37's so very consistent, whilst Charles run on the C1 was close to a second faster a the start, however showed a noticeable bit of degradation towards the end - Might be due to the fact he was lapping significantly faster, but even compared to the softer C2, was expecting it to last a bit longer than that... probably trialing extremes in terms of pace in the stint.

If comparing to the SF23 though, it's literally night and day... so looking good moving forward in the battle for P2 in the WCC!

Final stint doesn't really matter much to be honest. It is low fuel so the degradation is always the best. The most important stints for measuring degradation are the first 2 when the car is heaviest.

[Schippke]

Well, this pre-season went as good as it gets if you don't have a spaceship (RB20). Great job by the team.

Indeed - I'm pretty sure that Ferrari topped the Lap Chart for most laps completed? If not, then very close to the top. Haas also managed a lot of running too and Sauber did until this morning with only 28 laps for Bottas on the first half of the day... so seems the Power Unit is working well, though I'm sure nowhere near its limits in terms of pace. Should definitely help that we've got 4 Sets of Power Unit Allocations this year... might change how Ferrari runs them a bit over the season.

[Vinlarr89]

Some interesting points being discussed at the testing wrap up. They were indicating that they feel Ferrari very strong in race trim, very close to RB in fact, but the car appearing to be a handful when leclerc was pushing and suggesting may lack one lap pace.

Still think this is the lessor of the evils as the fast one lap cars have always been a nightmare come Sundays and the cars with better race pace always bear down.

[CouncilorIrissa]

Well, this pre-season went as good as it gets if you don't have a spaceship (RB20). Great job by the team.

Indeed - I'm pretty sure that Ferrari topped the Lap Chart for most laps completed? If not, then very close to the top. Haas also managed a lot of running too and Sauber did until this morning with only 28 laps for Bottas on the first half of the day... so seems the Power Unit is working well, though I'm sure nowhere near its limits in terms of pace. Should definitely help that we've got 4 Sets of Power Unit Allocations this year... might change how Ferrari runs them a bit over the season.

Haas did the most laps, Ferrari second most.

[CaribouBread]

Some interesting points being discussed at the testing wrap up. They were indicating that they feel Ferrari very strong in race trim, very close to RB in fact, but the car appearing to be a handful when leclerc was pushing and suggesting may lack one lap pace.

Still think this is the lessor of the evils as the fast one lap cars have always been a nightmare come Sundays and the cars with better race pace always bear down.

Not trusting a single word out of the commentators!

[Alex_Z]

Some interesting points being discussed at the testing wrap up. They were indicating that they feel Ferrari very strong in race trim, very close to RB in fact, but the car appearing to be a handful when leclerc was pushing and suggesting may lack one lap pace.

Still think this is the lessor of the evils as the fast one lap cars have always been a nightmare come Sundays and the cars with better race pace always bear down.

Not trusting a single word out of the commentators!

Allison claims Mercedes are slightly ahead of Ferrari in regards to race pace but behind on 1 lap pace

[CaribouBread]

Allison claims Mercedes are slightly ahead of Ferrari in regards to race pace but behind on 1 lap pace

Good for him I guess then

[Vanja #66]

Looks like Ferrari decided to do a full simulation without sandbags, I can only speculate the reason was to trully check the degradation and race pace capabilities under full load. They revealed what they can do and no other Top 5 team appeared to do so in testing.

It's good to see they are far better than they were a year ago. Roughly, start of the stint is 1s better and near the end of it laps are 2s better compared to R sims a year ago. On average 1.3-1.5s better pace than 23 testing, which was pretty much what the pace was in the race as well. Very good job by the team and we should draw the line at that. First race is only 8 days away and everything will be clear.

[jambuka]

Some interesting points being discussed at the testing wrap up. They were indicating that they feel Ferrari very strong in race trim, very close to RB in fact, but the car appearing to be a handful when leclerc was pushing and suggesting may lack one lap pace.

Still think this is the lessor of the evils as the fast one lap cars have always been a nightmare come Sundays and the cars with better race pace always bear down.

Not trusting a single word out of the commentators!

Allison claims Mercedes are slightly ahead of Ferrari in regards to race pace but behind on 1 lap pace

Russell race pace looked solid. Though it's very difficult to judge.

[codetower]

Looks like Ferrari decided to do a full simulation without sandbags, I can only speculate the reason was to trully check the degradation and race pace capabilities under full load. They revealed what they can do and no other Top 5 team appeared to do so in testing.

It's good to see they are far better than they were a year ago. Roughly, start of the stint is 1s better and near the end of it laps are 2s better compared to R sims a year ago. On average 1.3-1.5s better pace than 23 testing, which was pretty much what the pace was in the race as well. Very good job by the team and we should draw the line at that. First race is only 8 days away and everything will be clear.

Do you see this as a good thing, or bad? Is there anything to be gained by sandbagging? Teams are looking to improve based upon their OWN peak, not their competitors. I doubt teams are thinking "Well, we're .2 sec faster than our competitor... everyone take the rest of the week off!". Besides, I have to imagine that everyone knows who's sandbagging and by how much.