I'm not sure how sensible an idea it is to remove from any conversation the drivers idea of their performance in a given session. It is of course an important perspective.dia6olo wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 21:27I don't understand these type of comments, one can say "could have", "should have" and "lost this amount", they all mean nothing without context.mwillems wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 20:44https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/vide ... 25933.html
Lando: "I messed up sector 1, had a little oversteer on the exit of 1, just as I came on the throttle, and it cost me easily 1 and a half tenths, and it cost me P2. It's frustrating, and because of this I felt like I wanted to push a bit more... wrong thing to do... then I paid the price again in turn 4 with another couple of mistakes, the rest of the lap was there or thereabouts. The car was easily good enough for a front row."
It means nothing if he feels he could have gone 3 tenths faster if all the drivers who finished ahead also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 3 or 4 tenths faster, maybe the drivers behind also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 5 tenths faster...
Last year they changed the car it will not happen again.
Spot on, it's almost getting frustrating now watching Q3. Needs more of that metronomic consistency that the likes of Max have, there's no need for heroic pulling-it-out-the-bag laps now that the car is goodmwillems wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 22:30I'm not sure how sensible an idea it is to remove from any conversation the drivers idea of their performance in a given session. It is of course an important perspective.dia6olo wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 21:27I don't understand these type of comments, one can say "could have", "should have" and "lost this amount", they all mean nothing without context.mwillems wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 20:44https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/vide ... 25933.html
Lando: "I messed up sector 1, had a little oversteer on the exit of 1, just as I came on the throttle, and it cost me easily 1 and a half tenths, and it cost me P2. It's frustrating, and because of this I felt like I wanted to push a bit more... wrong thing to do... then I paid the price again in turn 4 with another couple of mistakes, the rest of the lap was there or thereabouts. The car was easily good enough for a front row."
It means nothing if he feels he could have gone 3 tenths faster if all the drivers who finished ahead also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 3 or 4 tenths faster, maybe the drivers behind also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 5 tenths faster...
Aside from that, it wasn't little mistakes and not a case of drawing together perfect sectors (Which has never been a good gauge of speed), it was a large mistake at the beginning of a lap that had a big consequence and one which was not visible in the other drivers performance. I'm sure everyone could do better. I'm sure Lando could do better later in his own lap too with small things here and there, but obviously he felt those mistakes at the start of the lap were sufficiently large and consequential enough that they warrant talking about.
The idea that these mistakes keep happening is an important narrative in his career, his attempts to win a world championship and the teams success. So even more so they are an important discussion point, because with the teams as close as they are right now, it is quite possible that this could be a championship year for Lando if things go the right way for him and the team.
Ergo, he needs to nail these mistakes because the consequences are far bigger than a single session or a single weekend.
It doesn't matter how big or little the mistake was, ignore it and take his best 3 sectors, do the same for others and he gets a P3, so he could have certainly done better, of that there is no doubt.mwillems wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 22:30I'm not sure how sensible an idea it is to remove from any conversation the drivers idea of their performance in a given session. It is of course an important perspective.dia6olo wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 21:27I don't understand these type of comments, one can say "could have", "should have" and "lost this amount", they all mean nothing without context.mwillems wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 20:44https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/vide ... 25933.html
Lando: "I messed up sector 1, had a little oversteer on the exit of 1, just as I came on the throttle, and it cost me easily 1 and a half tenths, and it cost me P2. It's frustrating, and because of this I felt like I wanted to push a bit more... wrong thing to do... then I paid the price again in turn 4 with another couple of mistakes, the rest of the lap was there or thereabouts. The car was easily good enough for a front row."
It means nothing if he feels he could have gone 3 tenths faster if all the drivers who finished ahead also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 3 or 4 tenths faster, maybe the drivers behind also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 5 tenths faster...
Aside from that, it wasn't little mistakes and not a case of drawing together perfect sectors (Which has never been a good gauge of speed), it was a large mistake at the beginning of a lap that had a big consequence and one which was not visible in the other drivers performance. I'm sure everyone could do better. I'm sure Lando could do better later in his own lap too with small things here and there, but obviously he felt those mistakes at the start of the lap were sufficiently large and consequential enough that they warrant talking about.
The idea that these mistakes keep happening is an important narrative in his career, his attempts to win a world championship and the teams success. So even more so they are an important discussion point, because with the teams as close as they are right now, it is quite possible that this could be a championship year for Lando if things go the right way for him and the team.
Ergo, he needs to nail these mistakes because the consequences are far bigger than a single session or a single weekend.
Of course it matters, because there are other mistakes in Lando's lap, he didn't just make one solitary mistake that added up to the time across all of Leclercs lap. It's clear from the data by comparing his last lap to his previous runs and other drivers runs that he made another large mistake at turn 8 losing 2 tenths.dia6olo wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 22:52It doesn't matter how big or little the mistake was, ignore it and take his best 3 sectors, do the same for others and he gets a P3, so he could have certainly done better, of that there is no doubt.mwillems wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 22:30I'm not sure how sensible an idea it is to remove from any conversation the drivers idea of their performance in a given session. It is of course an important perspective.dia6olo wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 21:27
I don't understand these type of comments, one can say "could have", "should have" and "lost this amount", they all mean nothing without context.
It means nothing if he feels he could have gone 3 tenths faster if all the drivers who finished ahead also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 3 or 4 tenths faster, maybe the drivers behind also feel they made mistakes and could have gone 5 tenths faster...
Aside from that, it wasn't little mistakes and not a case of drawing together perfect sectors (Which has never been a good gauge of speed), it was a large mistake at the beginning of a lap that had a big consequence and one which was not visible in the other drivers performance. I'm sure everyone could do better. I'm sure Lando could do better later in his own lap too with small things here and there, but obviously he felt those mistakes at the start of the lap were sufficiently large and consequential enough that they warrant talking about.
The idea that these mistakes keep happening is an important narrative in his career, his attempts to win a world championship and the teams success. So even more so they are an important discussion point, because with the teams as close as they are right now, it is quite possible that this could be a championship year for Lando if things go the right way for him and the team.
Ergo, he needs to nail these mistakes because the consequences are far bigger than a single session or a single weekend.
However he would have still been 0.3.21s off Leclerc who would have been P1.
The point I'm making is a lot of drivers make mistakes and could have gone quicker.
I think we're running a bigger wing. That's why we are purple in S2. But clearly the trade off is not much which is why we are in the mix for front rowLionsHeart wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 22:51Drag? Unbelievable. And I thought I wouldn't see this problem this season.
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