Sainz is positive because he beat his teammate, that's all he cares about at the moment. Not that I blame him, given the position he's in.Vinlarr89 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:10For me there’s a reason in Ferrari choosing Leclerc over Sainz, and that is telling in the post race interviews.
Sainz is positive and upbeat, a P3 is a good result and the car feels so much better.
Charles, who has just had a P4 and got the car there despite some horrendous issues with the car is fuming. To him that is not acceptable. Anything other than challenging for the win isn’t good enough.
Mentality.
Oh brother. Get real.Vinlarr89 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:10For me there’s a reason in Ferrari choosing Leclerc over Sainz, and that is telling in the post race interviews.
Sainz is positive and upbeat, a P3 is a good result and the car feels so much better.
Charles, who has just had a P4 and got the car there despite some horrendous issues with the car is fuming. To him that is not acceptable. Anything other than challenging for the win isn’t good enough.
Mentality.
Sainz' being happy with P3 is why he's not considered an alien of his generation. Sr can pay race driving lessons and pressure some people to do things Jr's way, but Sr can't buy champion mentality for Jr. Or race start skill, for that matter...
Sainz being happy with P3 tells me he ran a good race.
When he does one good race without losing positions at the start and without the team helping him win, I will accept his assessment of a good race as a valid assessment. I'm really sad to see Sr has so much bad influence that Jr has to bs himself after every race instead of accepting he could have done a better job and start working on doing a better job. Helicopter parenting brings nothing good.
Wow. That escalated. We’re all allowed a difference of opinion. No one is insecure and No one needs to get anything checked out.JPower wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:54Your assessment isn't more important than anyone else's especially not someone sitting in the actual driver's seat.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:51When he does one good race without losing positions at the start and without the team helping him win, I will accept his assessment of a good race as a valid assessment. I'm really sad to see Sr has so much bad influence that Jr has to bs himself after every race instead of accepting he could have done a better job and start working on doing a better job. Helicopter parenting brings nothing good.
Regardless, I'm really sad to see someone as intelligent as yourself get triggered by a good race result to the point where you have to make up false narratives and try insult him and his family. Honestly it reeks of insecurity.
You should get that checked out.
It's a little ironic how you claim his assessment isn't important but then make a psychological evaluation of someone in the internet without ever knowing them, why escalate that much?JPower wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:54Your assessment isn't more important than anyone else's especially not someone sitting in the actual driver's seat.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:51When he does one good race without losing positions at the start and without the team helping him win, I will accept his assessment of a good race as a valid assessment. I'm really sad to see Sr has so much bad influence that Jr has to bs himself after every race instead of accepting he could have done a better job and start working on doing a better job. Helicopter parenting brings nothing good.
Regardless, I'm really sad to see someone as intelligent as yourself get triggered by a good race result to the point where you have to make up false narratives and try insult him and his family. Honestly it reeks of insecurity.
You should get that checked out.
Look I'm fine with talking about things on track but start moving to off track nonsense about who's father is doing what and we're now in a difference space. Does that sound appropriate to you in a team thread or does it sound like someone who is holding a grudge over a driver getting a good result? I expect more out of a forum called F1Technical.Vinlarr89 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:57Wow. That escalated. We’re all allowed a difference of opinion. No one is insecure and No one needs to get anything checked out.JPower wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:54Your assessment isn't more important than anyone else's especially not someone sitting in the actual driver's seat.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:51
When he does one good race without losing positions at the start and without the team helping him win, I will accept his assessment of a good race as a valid assessment. I'm really sad to see Sr has so much bad influence that Jr has to bs himself after every race instead of accepting he could have done a better job and start working on doing a better job. Helicopter parenting brings nothing good.
Regardless, I'm really sad to see someone as intelligent as yourself get triggered by a good race result to the point where you have to make up false narratives and try insult him and his family. Honestly it reeks of insecurity.
You should get that checked out.
Should Vasseur get checked out too?I think Carlos’s race was clean. He didn’t start great, but then he recovered quite quickly, fought, and managed to find himself in a good position on the track.
Are you frustrated to the point where you suggest that the driver's father is moving things around behind the scenes, making random inferences about having paid driving lessions, saying his father is a bad influence, and mocking race starts?SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 23:59
It's a little ironic how you claim his assessment isn't important but then make a psychological evaluation of someone in the internet without ever knowing them, why escalate that much?
Anyways, I understand Vanja's frustration even if I don't share the same viewpoint. I think it was a good race for Sainz, but I also agree that sometimes, it seems Sainz is too happy with just beating his teammate... that is a difference I have noticed between the two.
I've responded.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 00:02Its dissapointing when people stoop to personal insults when they can't think of anthing better to respond...
Vasseur is clear about Sainz' performance:
Should Vasseur get checked out too?I think Carlos’s race was clean. He didn’t start great, but then he recovered quite quickly, fought, and managed to find himself in a good position on the track.