2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Significant improved.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 15:04
Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.

https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
RB20 looks like a monster here compared to RB19, but I think RB19 was managing more with the engine issue and driving to a delta. Ferrari and Merc are closer than last year.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 15:04
Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.

https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
Stint 1 - RB20 (S) faster than RB19 (S) by crude average 1 sec
Stint 2 - RB20 (H) faster than RB19 (S) by crude average 2 sec
Stint 3 - RB20 (S) faster than RB19 (H) by crude average 2 sec

What is to be inferred from this ? Which is the true apple vs apple comparison ? Stint1 ? (stints 2&3 seem like driving to some set prescribed time delta).

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f1isgood wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 14:42
I was comparing the first stint of 2024 car on softs to the 2023 car on softs.

These indicate a far better picture in my opinion of the actual lap time gains in race trim at least. In the first stint last year where Max pulled away without too much management -- he is doing high 37s to low 38s across his first 15 odd laps. This year his first stint was a 37.0 sharp.

RB have found 1s+ in race trim from RB19 to RB20. With better wind conditions I think we could have seen this translate over one lap as well.

https://imgur.com/gallery/N81RucK
Don't think this is a totally fair comparison though because Red Bull ran detuned engines last year and generally more conservatively here in Bahrain. Let's wait until Jeddah, but it is clear that they made a big step with the RB20. Impressive to say the least

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According to #AMuS there are rumours in the paddock that RBR is bringing a major upgrade to Imola
Marko grinned when asked about the rumour : "Let's see"

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organic wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 17:14
According to #AMuS there are rumours in the paddock that RBR is bringing a major upgrade to Imola
Marko grinned when asked about the rumour : "Let's see"
What happened to Japan? I believe all teams will have a major upgrade by Imola.
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AR3-GP wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 17:21
organic wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 17:14
According to #AMuS there are rumours in the paddock that RBR is bringing a major upgrade to Imola
Marko grinned when asked about the rumour : "Let's see"
What happened to Japan? I believe all teams will have a major upgrade by Imola.
Wache said Suzuka and Imola. I guess maybe AMuS heard the Imola one is major
There were rumors in the Bahrain paddock that Red Bull would be adding a major upgrade for the European opener in Imola, promising a big step forward. When asked about this, Marko simply grinned meaningfully: "Let's see."
The full quote from the article claims the imola package promises a big step

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 17:10
f1isgood wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 14:42
I was comparing the first stint of 2024 car on softs to the 2023 car on softs.

These indicate a far better picture in my opinion of the actual lap time gains in race trim at least. In the first stint last year where Max pulled away without too much management -- he is doing high 37s to low 38s across his first 15 odd laps. This year his first stint was a 37.0 sharp.

RB have found 1s+ in race trim from RB19 to RB20. With better wind conditions I think we could have seen this translate over one lap as well.

https://imgur.com/gallery/N81RucK
Don't think this is a totally fair comparison though because Red Bull ran detuned engines last year and generally more conservatively here in Bahrain. Let's wait until Jeddah, but it is clear that they made a big step with the RB20. Impressive to say the least
That's why I tried to just stick to first stint comparison. Engine detuning isn't very apparent to me -- feel free to correct me. Take for instance Lap 6 in both races. The major gains are in the corners.

https://imgur.com/a/WPD3YXH

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 15:04
Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.

https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
Thanks!

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They are running the PU only as hard as they have to.

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I don't think high speed is a weakness. Perez says it will be good.
The next race takes place at Jeddah Corniche Circuit, which has a less abrasive surface and far more high-speed corners than Bahrain. Perez, who won last year’s race at the track, forecasts another strong weekend for the team.

“I believe that the car will be strong there with the high-speed content,” he said. “So I think there should be another strong weekend for us.”
https://www.racefans.net/2024/03/03/red ... ger-perez/
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Perez also playing it smart:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 6chyi.html
The 34-year-old suggested that his focus is instead on the team maintaining their momentum, particularly as the car develops throughout the campaign.

“I think, so far, it’s just important, the car is going to be evolving and changing,” Perez commented. “I think it’s just important to keep it up, keep the momentum going, and make sure that we are able to keep that momentum with us.”
He also said he struggled with downshifts and engine braking in the race and that they would analyze this.
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Venturiation wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 18:56
Not that that information is false necessarily, but this account is always sh*t-stirring against Red Bull and Max, he has a very clear agenda.

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KimiRai wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 19:27
Venturiation wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 18:56
Not that that information is false necessarily, but this account is always sh*t-stirring against Red Bull and Max, he has a very clear agenda.
The source is The Telegraph, so there's definitely something to it.