2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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A concern that becomes even greater if the 'father' of the RB20, Red Bull Technical Director Adrian Newey, did not expect this result and, more generally, this performance: "I must say that it was unexpected – admitted the British designer to Viaplay – we were not satisfied with the car and the gap we had in practice, But in the race everything went the right way."

According to Newey, there are still some areas of the car that need to be worked on to increase the potential, even if the result of the inaugural GP is the result of the team's overall work: "It's our whole team, the engineering team, everyone behind the car. All the guys in Milton Keynes have made a huge effort to get here, to have the performance we have had," he concluded.
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Praise for Perez
Sergio Perez finished in second place – 22 seconds behind Verstappen and 2.7s ahead of Sainz – and received compliments from Marko: "It wouldn't have made sense for him to push harder. He had third place under control and had no chance of winning. He absolutely drove a tactically impeccable race, never pushing. Or rather: it could have gone faster, but there was no reason to do so."
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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 01:33
A concern that becomes even greater if the 'father' of the RB20, Red Bull Technical Director Adrian Newey, did not expect this result and, more generally, this performance: "I must say that it was unexpected – admitted the British designer to Viaplay – we were not satisfied with the car and the gap we had in practice, But in the race everything went the right way."

According to Newey, there are still some areas of the car that need to be worked on to increase the potential, even if the result of the inaugural GP is the result of the team's overall work: "It's our whole team, the engineering team, everyone behind the car. All the guys in Milton Keynes have made a huge effort to get here, to have the performance we have had," he concluded.
https://www.formulapassion.it/motorspor ... ll-bahrain
I start to have a sense that RedBull is setting much more aggressive development targets than other teams.
Usual trend from recent years that most competitors are very happy with their development over the winter, saying they hit most of their marks etc only then to be find out it was not enough by far.

While RB is usually a bit concerned, not hitting some of their targets and then pleasantly surprised at the end, not really understanding what the others are (not) doing.
Really it seems that RB is the only team taking this seriously.

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Paa wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 02:23
AR3-GP wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 01:33
A concern that becomes even greater if the 'father' of the RB20, Red Bull Technical Director Adrian Newey, did not expect this result and, more generally, this performance: "I must say that it was unexpected – admitted the British designer to Viaplay – we were not satisfied with the car and the gap we had in practice, But in the race everything went the right way."

According to Newey, there are still some areas of the car that need to be worked on to increase the potential, even if the result of the inaugural GP is the result of the team's overall work: "It's our whole team, the engineering team, everyone behind the car. All the guys in Milton Keynes have made a huge effort to get here, to have the performance we have had," he concluded.
https://www.formulapassion.it/motorspor ... ll-bahrain
I start to have a sense that RedBull is setting much more aggressive development targets than other teams.
Usual trend from recent years that most competitors are very happy with their development over the winter, saying they hit most of their marks etc only then to be find out it was not enough by far.

While RB is usually a bit concerned, not hitting some of their targets and then pleasantly surprised at the end, not really understanding what the others are (not) doing.
Really it seems that RB is the only team taking this seriously.
Only makes you wonder really just how far ahead they may be by seasons end.


I guess it makes sense then they seem to be the team that best understood the new rules/concepts far more than anyone else they can go down this path though too.

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Paa wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 02:23
AR3-GP wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 01:33
A concern that becomes even greater if the 'father' of the RB20, Red Bull Technical Director Adrian Newey, did not expect this result and, more generally, this performance: "I must say that it was unexpected – admitted the British designer to Viaplay – we were not satisfied with the car and the gap we had in practice, But in the race everything went the right way."

According to Newey, there are still some areas of the car that need to be worked on to increase the potential, even if the result of the inaugural GP is the result of the team's overall work: "It's our whole team, the engineering team, everyone behind the car. All the guys in Milton Keynes have made a huge effort to get here, to have the performance we have had," he concluded.
https://www.formulapassion.it/motorspor ... ll-bahrain
I start to have a sense that RedBull is setting much more aggressive development targets than other teams.
Usual trend from recent years that most competitors are very happy with their development over the winter, saying they hit most of their marks etc only then to be find out it was not enough by far.

While RB is usually a bit concerned, not hitting some of their targets and then pleasantly surprised at the end, not really understanding what the others are (not) doing.
Really it seems that RB is the only team taking this seriously.

Winning streak plus energy drinks is a dangerous combo, which is why RB is developing faster than their rival.

2024 is a crucial year for RB, if they dominate 2024 like 2023 they will most likely wrap up 2025 as teams start to divert their attention towards 2026 regulation in 2025.

I reckon RBR is about 12 months ahead of the rest in development, and I won't be surprised RB20 concept and idea were conceived in late 2022 after Merc's victory in Brazil.

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f1isgood wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 14:42
I was comparing the first stint of 2024 car on softs to the 2023 car on softs.

These indicate a far better picture in my opinion of the actual lap time gains in race trim at least. In the first stint last year where Max pulled away without too much management -- he is doing high 37s to low 38s across his first 15 odd laps. This year his first stint was a 37.0 sharp.

RB have found 1s+ in race trim from RB19 to RB20. With better wind conditions I think we could have seen this translate over one lap as well.

https://imgur.com/gallery/N81RucK
Colder temps so cannot be compared.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Mar 2024, 15:04
Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.

https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
Great stuff! This is the best visual way to show how much more Max was pushing this year, stints 2 and 3 were stunning. Max is mad about racing himself, I respect him for that. He has the equipment and he does not intend to waste it!
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Image


This is Senna like consistency...
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Everything is within 6 hundredths of a second 😬

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https://www.grandprix247.com/2024/03/04 ... la-1-team/

"JOS VERSTAPPEN DESTROYING MAX’S MIGHTY RED BULL F1 TEAM"

Getting the feeling Verstappen senior is a narcissist who is growing increasingly jealous of his son, and by trying to pull the spotlight to him has become an extremely toxic element.

Might be time for Verstappen to tell his dad to can it.

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Rikhart wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 13:23
https://www.grandprix247.com/2024/03/04 ... la-1-team/

"JOS VERSTAPPEN DESTROYING MAX’S MIGHTY RED BULL F1 TEAM"

Getting the feeling Verstappen senior is a narcissist who is growing increasingly jealous of his son, and by trying to pull the spotlight to him has become an extremely toxic element.

Might be time for Verstappen to tell his dad to can it.
There is a dedicated thread for that stuff & that's a crap tabloid source that just reposts stuff from other outlets with sensationalised reporting

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organic wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 13:25
Rikhart wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 13:23
https://www.grandprix247.com/2024/03/04 ... la-1-team/

"JOS VERSTAPPEN DESTROYING MAX’S MIGHTY RED BULL F1 TEAM"

Getting the feeling Verstappen senior is a narcissist who is growing increasingly jealous of his son, and by trying to pull the spotlight to him has become an extremely toxic element.

Might be time for Verstappen to tell his dad to can it.
There is a dedicated thread for that stuff & that's a crap tabloid source that just reposts stuff from other outlets with sensationalised reporting
There's a thread about these statements by Jos Verstappen? Can you point me to it?

This is all over the internet and Jos confirmed he said it, I cannot find a single thing more important to the team this thread pertains to, than this, right now.

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Dont care about Max

Red bull + Fernando Alonso = Win

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If Max were to leave at end of 2024 (as unlucky as it may seem) then Fernando is probably the best option

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De Wet wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 11:43
https://scontent-jnb2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=65EAE8B8


This is Senna like consistancy...
Geez that’s almost beyond consistent.