2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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The base car has great deg and they've got the big wang on. They should have enough push to be fairly competitive in S2. Looking to be a tidy race if nothing else goes wrong.

Fakepivot
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incredible racepace from Charles, he took medium at the end he could only do outlap, but he push all the way through even after checker flag he pushed but backed off after seeing too many traffic.. .

Vinlarr89
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Has anyone got any data?

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:10
Sevach wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:09
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 19:57
RB on meds, Ferrari on softs. Will be hard to draw conclusions from FP2.
Last year Ferrari looked decent on softs around here.
Then they switched to hards and looked awful.

I think most teams will be planning C3>C2 can Ferrari do something different?
It does not look like the SF23 performance profile has anything in common with the SF24.
Fair enough, it's just that no one other than Charles dared run C4 and while he was on C4s he was faster than Carlos(on C3) and the Mercs.
And the tires lasted a fair distance, enough for 1/3 of the GP.

The only other guy that went different was Hamilton who the reverse strategy C2>C3, due to the early SC he was forced to do 60% of the GP on C3 and it lasted Ok, he dropped a bit from Russell towards the end but he didn't hit a cliff.

My point is maybe consider something other than C3>C2.

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:20
Has anyone got any data?
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Considering the usual Ferrari approach to FP2s in general, it looks quite good.

Fakepivot
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Xyz22 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:21
Vinlarr89 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:20
Has anyone got any data?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIFkR5fWUAE ... name=large

Considering the usual Ferrari approach to FP2s in general, it looks quite good.
that 33.8 was with engine mode and torque set to 1, he was losing a lot in s2 compared to max. after that lap xavi said to turn back the engine mode and torque mode.. Also nice handwriting =D> ..

SoulPancake13
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Fakepivot wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:27
Xyz22 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:21
Vinlarr89 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:20
Has anyone got any data?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIFkR5fWUAE ... name=large

Considering the usual Ferrari approach to FP2s in general, it looks quite good.
that 33.8 was with engine mode and torque set to 1, he was losing a lot in s2 compared to max. after that lap xavi said to turn back the engine mode and torque mode.. Also nice handwriting =D> ..
Feels a little unfair that we don't credit the twitter user with the said nice handwriting! it's @_allthatglitz on twitter.

Xyz22
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Fakepivot wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:27
Xyz22 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:21
Vinlarr89 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:20
Has anyone got any data?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIFkR5fWUAE ... name=large

Considering the usual Ferrari approach to FP2s in general, it looks quite good.
that 33.8 was with engine mode and torque set to 1, he was losing a lot in s2 compared to max. after that lap xavi said to turn back the engine mode and torque mode.. Also nice handwriting =D> ..
Not mine :D

Thanks for reporting that by the way, interesting info. Yeah, Ferrari, as i said, is quite conservative in FP2 probably more than any other teams. In any event, RB still seems to be the benchmark which was expected.

Fakepivot
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SoulPancake13 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 20:31
Feels a little unfair that we don't credit the twitter user with the said nice handwriting! it's @_allthatglitz on twitter.
ahh, i recognize that username, i stopped using xitter long back, shame we got lot of immediate f1 related news there. thats why now i joined f1 tech :D

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* Straight behavior looks identical, bit of an edge on the main straight for Ferrari to improve on.
* S1 corners very good for Ferrari
* Last corner very good for Ferrari again

Car looks well setup for a single lap compared to RBR, both turned down the engine in FP2.

I'll have better graphs later, working right now.

Race sim, hard to compare:

LEC:
LAP 13 S/6 Stint 4.0: NaT
LAP 14 S/7 Stint 4.0: 1:35.262
LAP 15 S/8 Stint 4.0: 1:34.647
LAP 16 S/9 Stint 4.0: 1:34.429
LAP 17 S/10 Stint 4.0: 1:34.696
LAP 18 S/11 Stint 4.0: 1:34.220
LAP 19 S/12 Stint 4.0: 1:34.394
LAP 20 S/13 Stint 4.0: 1:34.536
LAP 21 S/14 Stint 4.0: 1:33.886
LAP 22 S/15 Stint 4.0: 1:38.330

VER:
LAP 15 M/9 Stint 4.0: NaT
LAP 16 M/10 Stint 4.0: 1:34.244
LAP 17 M/11 Stint 4.0: 1:34.339
LAP 18 M/12 Stint 4.0: 1:33.913
LAP 19 M/13 Stint 4.0: 1:33.911
LAP 20 M/14 Stint 4.0: 1:34.231
LAP 21 M/15 Stint 4.0: 1:43.684
LAP 22 M/16 Stint 4.0: 1:34.017
LAP 23 M/17 Stint 4.0: 1:34.053
LAP 24 M/18 Stint 4.0: 1:33.911
LAP 25 M/19 Stint 4.0: 1:33.726
LAP 26 M/20 Stint 4.0: NaT
LAP 27 M/21 Stint 4.0: 2:22.013

CouncilorIrissa
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33.7 for VER on 19-lap meds is just WTF territory.

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It is very interesting how the RB20 and the SF24 generate lap time in a very similar manner.

SoulPancake13
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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 21:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIFtjH_WsAA ... name=large

It is very interesting how the RB20 and the SF24 generate lap time in a very similar manner.
I think that Ferrari now produces similar downforce to the RB20. They are just draggier and still lack a little - Charles said the issues were clear and he seems quite confident they can bring the fight to Red Bull by the end of the season, should hopefully bode well for next year.

Vinlarr89
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Looks like Ferrari need to try and reduce some drag to gain a small bit of top speed. Apart from that the consistency in the corners between the two cars is scarily similar from that chart.

I expect the race pace of the RB20 to still be superior.

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Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with an hour of runnig before Q
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