2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[deadhead]

.250 is very good if true

Three big update packages? That's impressive.

Might just be enough to catch up towards the end and have a very interesting 2025!

[Xyz22]

Tomorrow formu1a.uno will be releasing an article talking about the new upgrade package for Imola which has been over 3 months of work and they will call it Ferrari 2.0 (really an italianism at this point, but amounts to the car being a B-spec).

https://formu1a.uno/it/esclusiva-ferrar ... a-cardile/

Skimming through, article claims;
First of three planned "big" upgrade, comes to Imola which will include inverted sidepod inlets, changes to sidepod, floor, front wing and cockpit? deflectors.

This must be the most ambitious upgrade package in a long time for Ferrari.

[Cs98]

2,5 tenths expected. What I don't see is how they will invert the intake with the position of their SIS.

[scuderiabrandon]

2,5 tenths expected. What I don't see is how they will invert the intake with the position of their SIS.

The upper SIS sits above the rad opening, shouldn't cause any issues.

[Fakepivot]

is that only Ferrari and red bull does undercut inlets, because they have like extra vertical one next to it?

[CaribouBread]

is that only Ferrari and red bull does undercut inlets, because they have like extra vertical one next to it?

I consider Mclaren's inlet to be a less extreme overbite - not the same thing, possibly not the same effect either obviously, but its an overbite for sure.
(corrected a blunder, thanks to ar3 for pointing it out)

[jumpingfish]

I'm very disappointed that these updates which took so long to prepare will only give 0.2-0.25s. I hope this is just a modest estimate and the real gain will be at least 0.4s.

[wowgr8]

Two and a half tenths is a big jump for a regular update where you aren't changing car concept or something of that sort. I always assumed the RB style inlets would be impossible for Ferrari since they have almost all their cooling done through the sidepods and need larger inlets regardless. Curious to see how it works, hopefully no overheating/reliability issues.

[Joel709]

I'm very disappointed that these updates which took so long to prepare will only give 0.2-0.25s. I hope this is just a modest estimate and the real gain will be at least 0.4s.

0.25 is a massive jump for a team that is already performing well. McLaren last year messed up people’s opinions of upgrades with their big jump. They only had a big jump because their base car was so bad.

[AR3-GP]

I'm very disappointed that these updates which took so long to prepare will only give 0.2-0.25s. I hope this is just a modest estimate and the real gain will be at least 0.4s.

0.25 is a massive jump for a team that is already performing well. McLaren last year messed up people’s opinions of upgrades with their big jump. They only had a big jump because their base car was so bad.

They only had a big jump because their base car was so bad.

How is it different to Ferrari in 2024? I think it's harsh to say this for either team.

[Seanspeed]

It's not a small jump, but after almost three months since the test and having little to no updates til then, and at a race where most every team will show up with notable upgrades, it's probably not gonna 'propel them forward' that much, either.

[AR3-GP]

It's not a small jump, but after almost three months since the test and having little to no updates til then, and at a race where most every team will show up with notable upgrades, it's probably not gonna 'propel them forward' that much, either.

Having the ability to actually be faster after your upgrades is something that fans take for granted . Teams are incredibly relieved when their correlation works, even if they are not the fastest team.

[Joel709]

I'm very disappointed that these updates which took so long to prepare will only give 0.2-0.25s. I hope this is just a modest estimate and the real gain will be at least 0.4s.

0.25 is a massive jump for a team that is already performing well. McLaren last year messed up people’s opinions of upgrades with their big jump. They only had a big jump because their base car was so bad.

They only had a big jump because their base car was so bad.

How is it different to Ferrari in 2024? I think it's harsh to say this for either team.

An in season upgrade will always be less significant than a winter one. The difference was that McLaren started last year with an absolute pig of a car that was near the back, they then bought a large upgrade and essentially got podium, but that was the plan, they put a lot of their time into that instead of having a car straight off. It’s a lot easier for the likes of Kick to find 2 tenths than it is red bull due to where they’re at. Red Bull consider a tenth a big upgrade because they’re nearest to the peak then everyone else.

[AR3-GP]

0.25 is a massive jump for a team that is already performing well. McLaren last year messed up people’s opinions of upgrades with their big jump. They only had a big jump because their base car was so bad.

They only had a big jump because their base car was so bad.

How is it different to Ferrari in 2024? I think it's harsh to say this for either team.

An in season upgrade will always be less significant than a winter one. The difference was that McLaren started last year with an absolute pig of a car that was near the back, they then bought a large upgrade and essentially got podium, but that was the plan, they put a lot of their time into that instead of having a car straight off. It’s a lot easier for the likes of Kick to find 2 tenths than it is red bull due to where they’re at. Red Bull consider a tenth a big upgrade because they’re nearest to the peak then everyone else.

Ferrari didn't bring any performance upgrades last year. It was all just fixing, understanding, and compromising for a car which was not good in high speed corners knowing that they were developing a different concept for the next season.

I don't see it all too different, and I respect the accomplishment of both teams. If it was so easy, others would have done it, but they haven't. Mercedes went backwards. Alpine went backwards.

[Xyz22]

It's not a small jump, but after almost three months since the test and having little to no updates til then, and at a race where most every team will show up with notable upgrades, it's probably not gonna 'propel them forward' that much, either.

0.25s of "pure usable" downforce is a huge jump.


In any event Leclerc said that he spent a lot of hours in the simulator in the last 3 days to improve in qualifying.