2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[CouncilorIrissa]

not Cardile but Resta with Sanchez under him

Cardile was head of aero, having just transferred from GT the previous year and I expect he had a hand in the novel SP inlet. Could explain his quick climb up the ranks.

Cardile worked on the actual car. Resta designed the base for the new regs of 2017 then moved to Sauber (2016 in ferrari then 2017 in sauber.).. and those inlet was an idea of Sanchez, Turrini stated

That's incorrect, Resta was working for Ferrari throughout 2017. He went to Alfa in 2018.

[Polite]

think u are right... becoming old here!

[CouncilorIrissa]

No worries -- keeping track of Resta's movements makes my head hurt even as a young person.

[Cs98]

Binotto is one of the worst technical director and TP of all time.

Delusional.

Let's see the cars made under Binotto as Technical Director:

- SF71H --> Good (ruined by last upgrade package which made it slower)
- SF 90 --> Garbage despite an overpowered engine which was declared "illegal"
- SF 1000 --> One of the worst Ferrari of all time
- SF 21 ---> Terrible
- F1 75 --> Good for half of 2022, mediocre after
- SF 23 --> Terrible

This has nothing to do with Merc so moving it.

I spot 4 race winning cars in there, 5 pole sitting cars, a couple of contendors, and that's before we get to the fact you omitted the SF70H which Binotto oversaw as TD. I don't know what the obsession is with denigrating ex-employees unfairly, just creates a toxic environment.

[Mansell89]

Can Ferrari fight for a win this weekend do you think guys?

[Seanspeed]

Delusional.

Let's see the cars made under Binotto as Technical Director:

- SF71H --> Good (ruined by last upgrade package which made it slower)
- SF 90 --> Garbage despite an overpowered engine which was declared "illegal"
- SF 1000 --> One of the worst Ferrari of all time
- SF 21 ---> Terrible
- F1 75 --> Good for half of 2022, mediocre after
- SF 23 --> Terrible

This has nothing to do with Merc so moving it.

I spot 4 race winning cars in there, 5 pole sitting cars, a couple of contendors, and that's before we get to the fact you omitted the SF70H which Binotto oversaw as TD. I don't know what the obsession is with denigrating ex-employees unfairly, just creates a toxic environment.

2018 Ferrari was a legit championship contender.

2022 Ferrari could have been as well, not to mention how innovative it was.

That's better than 'good'.

And calling a front running, race winning car like SF90 'garbage' simply cuz it wasn't a championship contender takes some serious dishonesty. Anybody saying stuff like this should be instantly dismissed and isn't here for constructive, objective discussion.

[Cs98]

Let's see the cars made under Binotto as Technical Director:

- SF71H --> Good (ruined by last upgrade package which made it slower)
- SF 90 --> Garbage despite an overpowered engine which was declared "illegal"
- SF 1000 --> One of the worst Ferrari of all time
- SF 21 ---> Terrible
- F1 75 --> Good for half of 2022, mediocre after
- SF 23 --> Terrible

This has nothing to do with Merc so moving it.

I spot 4 race winning cars in there, 5 pole sitting cars, a couple of contendors, and that's before we get to the fact you omitted the SF70H which Binotto oversaw as TD. I don't know what the obsession is with denigrating ex-employees unfairly, just creates a toxic environment.

2018 Ferrari was a legit championship contender.

2022 Ferrari could have been as well, not to mention how innovative it was.

That's better than 'good'.

And calling a front running, race winning car like SF90 'garbage' simply cuz it wasn't a championship contender takes some serious dishonesty. Anybody saying stuff like this should be instantly dismissed and isn't here for constructive, objective discussion.

Agreed.

[Sphere3758]

Can Ferrari fight for a win this weekend do you think guys?

All I want to see is Leclerc have a clean qualifying and race. I am still unsure on what the gap between Redbull and Ferrari really is

[CouncilorIrissa]

Can Ferrari fight for a win this weekend do you think guys?

No.
3-4 is realistic, 2-3 is possible if Perez has one of his moments.

[chrstphrln]

Can Ferrari fight for a win this weekend do you think guys?

All I want to see is Leclerc have a clean qualifying and race. I am still unsure on what the gap between Redbull and Ferrari really is

Absolutely! Those are exactly my wishes for the weekend.

[dia6olo]

Can Ferrari fight for a win this weekend do you think guys?

Yes, Red Bull will be favourites and barring incidents a Ferrari win is a bit of an ask.
Is it possible? Absolutely.

[Xyz22]

Seems the Teams are quite surprised by the paint applied to the track.
I wonder if that will have a significant impact on performance compared to the simulations run before the WE.

This has nothing to do with Merc so moving it.
I spot 4 race winning cars in there, 5 pole sitting cars, a couple of contendors, and that's before we get to the fact you omitted the SF70H which Binotto oversaw as TD. I don't know what the obsession is with denigrating ex-employees unfairly, just creates a toxic environment.

We are talking about Ferrari, therefore the expectations are much higher. Moreover, for the 2022 season Ferrari also had a massive advantage in terms of budget and wind tunnel hours compared to RB.

The reality is that under Binotto Ferrari cars finished P1 14 times in 6 season. To me, that is an absolutely awful result.

[CouncilorIrissa]

Let's see the cars made under Binotto as Technical Director:

- SF71H --> Good (ruined by last upgrade package which made it slower)
- SF 90 --> Garbage despite an overpowered engine which was declared "illegal"
- SF 1000 --> One of the worst Ferrari of all time
- SF 21 ---> Terrible
- F1 75 --> Good for half of 2022, mediocre after
- SF 23 --> Terrible

This has nothing to do with Merc so moving it.

I spot 4 race winning cars in there, 5 pole sitting cars, a couple of contendors, and that's before we get to the fact you omitted the SF70H which Binotto oversaw as TD. I don't know what the obsession is with denigrating ex-employees unfairly, just creates a toxic environment.

And calling a front running, race winning car like SF90 'garbage' simply cuz it wasn't a championship contender takes some serious dishonesty. Anybody saying stuff like this should be instantly dismissed and isn't here for constructive, objective discussion.

SF90 wasn't a bad car when taking the engine into account, but the chassis was pretty bad. Slow-speed corner deficit was simply obscene.
I always have flashbacks to this comparison when people talk about the SF90. Look at the third sector


With the power advantage Ferrari enjoyed in 2019, any remotely competent chassis should've at least been in the championship fight. Given that power advantage was achieved through dodgy means, it paints a pretty grim picture.

[Xyz22]

This has nothing to do with Merc so moving it.

I spot 4 race winning cars in there, 5 pole sitting cars, a couple of contendors, and that's before we get to the fact you omitted the SF70H which Binotto oversaw as TD. I don't know what the obsession is with denigrating ex-employees unfairly, just creates a toxic environment.

And calling a front running, race winning car like SF90 'garbage' simply cuz it wasn't a championship contender takes some serious dishonesty. Anybody saying stuff like this should be instantly dismissed and isn't here for constructive, objective discussion.

SF90 wasn't a bad car when taking the engine into account, but the chassis was pretty bad. Slow-speed corner deficit was simply obscene.
I always have flashbacks to this comparison when people talk about the SF90. Look at the third sector


With the power advantage Ferrari enjoyed in 2019, any remotely competent chassis should've at least been in the championship fight. Given that power advantage was achieved through dodgy means, it paints a pretty grim picture.

An absolutely awful chassis which was only decent in high speed corners and carried by an overpowered engine. Morevoer the performance in race trim was even worse compared to qualifying with tracks like Hungary, China, Spain where the car was close to 1s slower.
And this was coming off the SF 71H with even higher expectations. Ferrari then had to use that chassis for 2020 and 2021 pretty much. A colossal disaster.

[Vanja #66]

Can Ferrari fight for a win this weekend do you think guys?

I'm 99.9% certain it's completely out of reach. Track has been worked on a lot, most of the bumps have been ground down (at least this is reported) and it's gonna be a cool weekend overall. All of that works to Red Bulls strengths.