2024 Chinese GP

[Matt2725]

Did someone notice the rear camera of Max V, the rear axle was moving almost steering itself (its like DAS but for the rear axle?

When did you see that?

[Cs98]

Imagine calling finishing P2 ahead of way faster cars “poor”

I mean the guy did everything right in the Sprint! I don’t know why people keep pointing to the lockup as the reason he got passed by Max! The rest couldn’t even beat Perez…

Red Bull was over 1 second faster in the Sprint! Max would have got by irrespective of Lewis making a mistake…

Question is what happened to that pace in quali, P18 is disastrous. Maybe Alonso holding the others off in the Sprint saved Hammy's bacon.

Looking at the race now I still can’t understand how he ended up second in the Sprint! Even if Alonso was holding up the others this pace is embarrassing…can’t even catch an Alpine

Shouldn't have "experimented" and changed the set-up then after the sprint. Russell's showing that the car can do a lot more.

[atanatizante]

NOR is the real winner folks

[DGP123]

Question is what happened to that pace in quali, P18 is disastrous. Maybe Alonso holding the others off in the Sprint saved Hammy's bacon.

Looking at the race now I still can’t understand how he ended up second in the Sprint! Even if Alonso was holding up the others this pace is embarrassing…can’t even catch an Alpine

Shouldn't have "experimented" and changed the set-up then after the sprint. Russell's showing that the car can do a lot more.

Hamilton achieved a P2, so he showed Russell what the car can do. It works both ways

Anyways, the action was yesterday. Today, we already knew the pace of the cars, and there was no mixed up grid. A return to norm, and a borefest.

[atanatizante]

[PinkFloydPulse]

How is Max not bored with this… RB should just stop car development completely until the grid catches up so they can race a bit

[Cs98]

Looking at the race now I still can’t understand how he ended up second in the Sprint! Even if Alonso was holding up the others this pace is embarrassing…can’t even catch an Alpine

Shouldn't have "experimented" and changed the set-up then after the sprint. Russell's showing that the car can do a lot more.

Hamilton achieved a P2, so he showed Russell what the car can do. It works both ways

Anyways, the action was yesterday. Today, we already knew the pace of the cars, and there was no mixed up grid. A return to norm, and a borefest.

The problem is that today, in a bog-standard dry race, Hamilton's pace was on par with the RB/Haas/Alpine collective. If not for the SC coming at a perfect time, and Stroll's antics clearing out a few cars ahead, he's finishing outside the points on pace.

[aMessageToCharlie]

Did someone notice the rear camera of Max V, the rear axle was moving almost steering itself (its like DAS but for the rear axle?

When did you see that?

Right before the last sc restart I think.
Looked like 4 wheel steering to me.

[PlatinumZealot]

Question is what happened to that pace in quali, P18 is disastrous. Maybe Alonso holding the others off in the Sprint saved Hammy's bacon.

Looking at the race now I still can’t understand how he ended up second in the Sprint! Even if Alonso was holding up the others this pace is embarrassing…can’t even catch an Alpine

Shouldn't have "experimented" and changed the set-up then after the sprint. Russell's showing that the car can do a lot more.

Nope. You are wrong. That car CANNOT do a lot more. Look where Russell would finish in the natural order: Ninth!! Hew would be behind the redbulls, the ferrarris, the Mclarens, the Astons. Chump change really. It's a disgrace. No point in fighting for that.

Lewis is actually wiser than many think and should be given credit for playing the long game. All Russell is focusing on is beating Lewis but Lewis is focusing on getting the car into decent shape before seasons end. Might as well take every single race to experiment to help the team "unlock" the car going into the summer break.

[Cs98]

Did someone notice the rear camera of Max V, the rear axle was moving almost steering itself (its like DAS but for the rear axle?

When did you see that?

Right before the last sc restart I think.
Looked like 4 wheel steering to me.

Yeah, I'm sure the FIA would not catch onto that

[PlatinumZealot]

How is Max not bored with this… RB should just stop car development completely until the grid catches up so they can race a bit

Like Yogi,he can't be bored in "ascending" to another level in the car can he? I admit it's history we are watching here. He is one with his car, rocket ship or not. Six tenths faster than Perez in race pace on equal tyres is just next level.

[Cs98]

Looking at the race now I still can’t understand how he ended up second in the Sprint! Even if Alonso was holding up the others this pace is embarrassing…can’t even catch an Alpine

Shouldn't have "experimented" and changed the set-up then after the sprint. Russell's showing that the car can do a lot more.

Nope. You are wrong. That car CANNOT do a lot more. Look where Russell would finish in the natural order: Ninth!! Hew would be behind the redbulls, the ferrarris, the Mclarens, the Astons. Chump change really. It's a disgrace. No point in fighting for that.

Lewis is actually wiser than many think and should be given credit for playing the long game. All Russell is focusing on is beating Lewis but Lewis is focusing on getting the car into decent shape before seasons end. Might as well take every single race to experiment to help the team "unlock" the car going into the summer break.

I understand the urge to cope, but don't make things up. Russell was in a battle with Alonso and Piastri for P6 the entire race, he was a legit P7 right behind Alonso when the SC hit. He was much faster than Lewis in the laptimes.

This is the third year we've heard the "experiments" excuse, it's at a point where it has lost all credibility. Not only because it's such a convenient thing to always bring up after a bad performance, but also because it has led to no relative improvement over 3 years. Maybe Ham should reconsider his methodology, but I think not, it's just too convenient to blame these "experiments".

[delsando53]

When did you see that?

Right before the last sc restart I think.
Looked like 4 wheel steering to me.

Yeah, I'm sure the FIA would not catch onto that

[Rikhart]

Right before the last sc restart I think.
Looked like 4 wheel steering to me.

Yeah, I'm sure the FIA would not catch onto that

https://i.ibb.co/4VKz5VW/GIF-20240421-191626-945.gif

Are you talking about the tyre deformation and suspension travel, is that what you mean?

[delsando53]

Yeah, I'm sure the FIA would not catch onto that

https://i.ibb.co/4VKz5VW/GIF-20240421-191626-945.gif

Are you talking about the tyre deformation and suspension travel, is that what you mean?

There issuspension travel and tyre deformation , but also lateral translation of the rear axel when turning.