2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[Venturiation]

It's not a matter if I support a driver or not. Would you like it if I called you Hamilton-hater? I don't like when people are unreasonable. Alonso already was on Stroll turning him around before even Hamilton touched him not to mention he was on the inside. If you want to blame someone blame Alonso.

Hamilton had no hope of making that corner without using Alonso as a brake. That gap he so idiotically put his nose into was always going to disappear when the cars ahead of him turned into T1. He should know this, the man's been in the sport close to 2 decades and is a 7 time champion. It doesn't matter what Alonso or Stroll may have done that could or could not have made an incident, what Hamilton did guaranteed one. Every time we see a driver do what Hamilton did on lap 1 here, it ends in a collision. Amateur driving.

Anyway, looking forward to qualifying. Pace seems to be decent.

Hamilton was making that corner
Stroll crashing was what blocked hamilton

[Darth-Piekus]

I am glad that there is some common sense. Pictures don't lie. Hamilton is nowhere near Alonso and doesn't seem to be having problems turning. If you want to blame someone, blame Alonso this time.

[AR3-GP]

It's not a matter if I support a driver or not. Would you like it if I called you Hamilton-hater? I don't like when people are unreasonable. Alonso already was on Stroll turning him around before even Hamilton touched him not to mention he was on the inside. If you want to blame someone blame Alonso.

Hamilton had no hope of making that corner without using Alonso as a brake. That gap he so idiotically put his nose into was always going to disappear when the cars ahead of him turned into T1. He should know this, the man's been in the sport close to 2 decades and is a 7 time champion. It doesn't matter what Alonso or Stroll may have done that could or could not have made an incident, what Hamilton did guaranteed one. Every time we see a driver do what Hamilton did on lap 1 here, it ends in a collision. Amateur driving.

Anyway, looking forward to qualifying. Pace seems to be decent.

Hamilton was making that corner
Stroll crashing was what blocked hamilton

They are both to blame. Here is Hamilton "making that corner":

[Alex_Z]

Looks like Alonso was making contact whether Lewis was on the inside or not. Either way Lando bottled it with the fastest car again and will do so tonight.

[hollus]

Onboard you can actually see Alonso making a bit of contact with Stroll, somehow keeping that contact stable, then looking right, turning left as he sees Hamilton, then making even more contact with Stroll. I say 60%-40% blame.

[Marc.W]

Looks like Alonso was making contact whether Lewis was on the inside or not. Either way Lando bottled it with the fastest car again and will do so tonight.

Not exactly sure how getting taken out of the race is "bottling it"

[mwillems]

Hamilton came into that corner so fast and late. It's turn one of the opening lap, so many cars doing things, to think that space was just available for as long as he needed it was a bit desperate whilst at the same time Lance was squeezing Alonso, not realising he was making an Alonso sandwich.

But, still, it is a racing incident, nothing more, you'd just expect better of Hamilton, that seemed like a bit of a rookie move.

[mwillems]

I'm posting purely for the video (Not to endorse the Hamilton comment) as it looks from this angle that Alonso had almost nothing he could do. In any case, a shame to see Lando go out so cheaply, but thank the lucky stars that the damage was minimal.

[Darth-Piekus]

Personally I disagree with the whole notion. Alonso was already turning Stroll before even Hamilton was near. For me Alonso was to blame.

[FittingMechanics]

There were two independent incidents and two drivers at fault in T1.

Alonso for crashing into Stroll.
Hamilton for crashing into Alonso.

Both made mistakes.

[Darth-Piekus]

That is why we must be a pole position team as fast as possible to avoid that midfield and we have to stop screwing Qualifications.

[bauc]

That is why we must be a pole position team as fast as possible to avoid that midfield and we have to stop screwing Qualifications.

We need to quali good today, otherwise we will get stuck in traffic again tomorrow

[SilviuAgo]

Is funny this conversation and I'm glad having guests also Mercedes fans as Venturiation on a McLaren topic forum. Welcome
On other side, finally we have a Sprint race where to discuss, although was still a Max win
Happy to fill the gap between SprintRace and Quali with some nice arguments from both sides.

[SilviuAgo]

That is why we must be a pole position team as fast as possible to avoid that midfield and we have to stop screwing Qualifications.

We need to quali good today, otherwise we will get stuck in traffic again tomorrow

This is a valid point. Not only that you avoid some collateral damage as we saw earlier on Sprint Race but you have a good chance not only for the podium but also for the win. Max win was not convincing and based on what we saw yesterday in Sq1 and Sq2 Lando may have a chance for P1.

[mwillems]

That is why we must be a pole position team as fast as possible to avoid that midfield and we have to stop screwing Qualifications.

We need to quali good today, otherwise we will get stuck in traffic again tomorrow

Yes. Pressure is back on again now, time to see what we can get out of those softs and what happens when Q3 heat ramps up. Qualifying is crucial to fight for a win here.