Holy mother of all overreactions.
Just because one team brought an upgrade one race earlier.
Interesting. Two things come to mind:CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:49Formu1a.uno reports:
“Ferrari will lap at Fiorano with the SF-24 2.0 between Thursday 9th and Friday 10th. Similar to pre-Austria 23, the important package of updates that the Maranello team will officially bring to the track from Imola will debut”
This is how it is for Ferrari, media gives so much presence and wants to boost clicks with sensational headlines. Reallistically, with regards to the end of 2023 Ferrari overperformed with launch-spec SF24 and MCL38 was a bit too conservative so far. This update was pretty much what I expected them to start the season with, to be honest.CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:42Holy mother of all overreactions.
Just because one team brought an upgrade one race earlier.
I think some of y'all got lost. This isn't the Youtube comment section folks.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:40McLaren is clearly more determined to succeed in Formula 1. Ferrari is more focused on the road car business.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:00I think that's over-stating it. Clearly McLaren have a more aggressive program. And they are getting more out of upgrades than anyone else.franbatista123 wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 19:16Ferrari is still in a much better position than Mclaren, provided the upgrades work. The car is consistent, works in different conditions/tracks and only has a couple of things to improve but nothing too major (slow speed, bit of drag reduction, getting tyres up to temperature).
Remember that Ferrari focused more on consistency this year (rightfully so) and were a bit conservative, but now is the time to unlock performance. The question isn't if Mclaren has surpassed Ferrari, but if Ferrari with the upgrades will be better than RB IMO.
Operationally, strategies and pit stops have been very good, ok at worst which is still much better than previous years. I must say... i am so excited for Imola
Indeed. Given the tone and politeness of answers, it has to be Twitter here.Seanspeed wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 21:06I think some of y'all got lost. This isn't the Youtube comment section folks.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:40McLaren is clearly more determined to succeed in Formula 1. Ferrari is more focused on the road car business.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:00
I think that's over-stating it. Clearly McLaren have a more aggressive program. And they are getting more out of upgrades than anyone else.
Please explain how McLaren is more determined to win than Ferrari then. Is it from bringing a big upgrade a race before Ferrari did?AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:01Indeed. Given the tone and politeness of answers, it has to be Twitter here.Seanspeed wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 21:06I think some of y'all got lost. This isn't the Youtube comment section folks.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:40
McLaren is clearly more determined to succeed in Formula 1. Ferrari is more focused on the road car business.
It's not related to the updates being introduced these days.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:23Please explain how McLaren is more determined to win than Ferrari then. Is it from bringing a big upgrade a race before Ferrari did?AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:01Indeed. Given the tone and politeness of answers, it has to be Twitter here.
Oh OK. They have a SINGLE race win in the last 12 years.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:40
McLaren is clearly more determined to succeed in Formula 1. Ferrari is more focused on the road car business.
Twocodetower wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 23:01Oh OK. They have a SINGLE race win in the last 12 years.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:40
McLaren is clearly more determined to succeed in Formula 1. Ferrari is more focused on the road car business.
Please list those other than Vigna's outburst at the start of 2023 season, as that is the reason why he's no longer allowed to stick his nose into Scuderia's business.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:53Ferrari made a lot af marketing announcements and promises (not only by Binotto), McLaren kept their mouth shut and worked hard. Year after year I delude myself we'll see Ferrari fighting again the way they used to, and then regularly I end up convincing myself they have become a luxury brand much more than a racing team.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:23Please explain how McLaren is more determined to win than Ferrari then. Is it from bringing a big upgrade a race before Ferrari did?AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:01
Indeed. Given the tone and politeness of answers, it has to be Twitter here.
Ahhhh! Forgot that race. Ricciardo!CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 23:02Twocodetower wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 23:01Oh OK. They have a SINGLE race win in the last 12 years.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:40
McLaren is clearly more determined to succeed in Formula 1. Ferrari is more focused on the road car business.
Monza 2021 and Miami 2024.
A team that used to start from the bottom of the pitlane some six years ago, and got two wins in ten years is mounting a more credible challenge to the title -for the second year on a row- than the very rich and very well established Ferrari team. Who is doing better right now? Who is in your opinion the more motivated one right now?CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 23:02Twocodetower wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 23:01Oh OK. They have a SINGLE race win in the last 12 years.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 19:40
McLaren is clearly more determined to succeed in Formula 1. Ferrari is more focused on the road car business.
Monza 2021 and Miami 2024.
Not true. Binotto kept on repeating the team had the strength to win the title and would deliver eventually.CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 23:03Please list those other than Vigna's outburst at the start of 2023 season, as that is the reason why he's no longer allowed to stick his nose into Scuderia's business.AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:53Ferrari made a lot af marketing announcements and promises (not only by Binotto), McLaren kept their mouth shut and worked hard. Year after year I delude myself we'll see Ferrari fighting again the way they used to, and then regularly I end up convincing myself they have become a luxury brand much more than a racing team.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 22:23
Please explain how McLaren is more determined to win than Ferrari then. Is it from bringing a big upgrade a race before Ferrari did?
As far as I'm concerned, one of the biggest gripes people had for Binotto was the opposite: complete lack of ambition (see 2022) and accountability. He never promised anything.
Nor did Arrivabene really.
Mounting a more credible challenge by what metric?AmateurDriver wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 23:10A team that used to start from the bottom of the pitlane some six years ago, and got two wins in ten years is mounting a more credible challenge to the title -for the second year on a row- than the very rich and very well established Ferrari team. Who is doing better right now? Who is in tour opinion the more motivated one right bow?