2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:28
very impressive heavy fuel run end of fp1.
Yeah, pace was pretty decent by Lando, but tough to get a read on other teams.

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McLaren usually doesn't run at high fuel in FP1, so it's difficult to compare. Also today, Piastri did his long run on the same fuel load as the quali simulation. Norris as well, I guess, but it's impossible to say because of the red flag

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search wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:34
McLaren usually doesn't run at high fuel in FP1, so it's difficult to compare. Also today, Piastri did his long run on the same fuel load as the quali simulation.
I don't really care about what other teams are doing in FP1, just looking at the deg in these warmer conditions.

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search wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:34
McLaren usually doesn't run at high fuel in FP1, so it's difficult to compare. Also today, Piastri did his long run on the same fuel load as the quali simulation.
Yep, which explains the relatively big gap to some of the teams. Let's wait for FP2 to get a better read.

Softs are super fragile though, they barely lasted for the last corner according to Lando's feedback during his fastest lap.

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MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:35
search wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:34
McLaren usually doesn't run at high fuel in FP1, so it's difficult to compare. Also today, Piastri did his long run on the same fuel load as the quali simulation.
I don't really care about what other teams are doing in FP1, just looking at the deg in these warmer conditions.
With low fuel you also avoid a lot of degradation, right?

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organic wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:36
MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:35
search wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:34
McLaren usually doesn't run at high fuel in FP1, so it's difficult to compare. Also today, Piastri did his long run on the same fuel load as the quali simulation.
I don't really care about what other teams are doing in FP1, just looking at the deg in these warmer conditions.
With low fuel you also avoid a lot of degradation, right?
Lando was definitely not on low fuel though. lower fuel compared to others maybe.. but the car definitely looked quite heavy.

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I don't think the team would change their run plan too much so I'm happy, car seems fast.

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Positive Start... :D :D

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MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:36
organic wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:36
MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:35


I don't really care about what other teams are doing in FP1, just looking at the deg in these warmer conditions.
With low fuel you also avoid a lot of degradation, right?
Lando was definitely not on low fuel though. lower fuel compared to others maybe.. but the car definitely looked quite heavy.
Of course he was. 2s faster on a harder tyre than Max who was on a high fuel run.

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Promising start. Nothing that should worry us. I look forward to the next 2 sessions where we can start to see the competetive order in FP3.

Hopefully we save some softer tyres for the race.
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Cassius wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:44
MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:36
organic wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:36


With low fuel you also avoid a lot of degradation, right?
Lando was definitely not on low fuel though. lower fuel compared to others maybe.. but the car definitely looked quite heavy.
Of course he was. 2s faster on a harder tyre than Max who was on a high fuel run.
1. I'm not saying he had the same fuel load as Max or anyone else, because I said I'm not comparing his lap times to any other car, just based on his lap times and onboard car behaviour over that run.

2. Being on a softer tyre for a stint doesn't mean you should lap faster anyway, especially when you are lapping on a track temp. of 48 degrees on a highly abrasive track surface.

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Nice bio on Mark Temple. Promoting within McLaren, there's some experience there across many disciplines. The team is building towards maturity. I heard recently where RedBull have something like 120+ years across several of their senior engineering staff which of course is where they get their ability to fight back when they look gone. FP1 looking OK, let's not get too carried away.

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MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:54
Cassius wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:44
MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:36


Lando was definitely not on low fuel though. lower fuel compared to others maybe.. but the car definitely looked quite heavy.
Of course he was. 2s faster on a harder tyre than Max who was on a high fuel run.
1. I'm not saying he had the same fuel load as Max or anyone else, because I said I'm not comparing his lap times to any other car, just based on his lap times and onboard car behaviour over that run.

2. Being on a softer tyre for a stint doesn't mean you should lap faster anyway, especially when you are lapping on a track temp. of 48 degrees on a highly abrasive track surface.
The wear on LHS front is predicted as being such that 3 stops will be common. This will be a areal challenge for Oscar at his stage of development. Will the soft be going off early on a qualifying lap, maybe medium the faster over a lap?

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BMMR61 wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 15:02
MrGapes wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:54
Cassius wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 14:44


Of course he was. 2s faster on a harder tyre than Max who was on a high fuel run.
1. I'm not saying he had the same fuel load as Max or anyone else, because I said I'm not comparing his lap times to any other car, just based on his lap times and onboard car behaviour over that run.

2. Being on a softer tyre for a stint doesn't mean you should lap faster anyway, especially when you are lapping on a track temp. of 48 degrees on a highly abrasive track surface.
The wear on LHS front is predicted as being such that 3 stops will be common. This will be a areal challenge for Oscar at his stage of development. Will the soft be going off early on a qualifying lap, maybe medium the faster over a lap?
Soft would still be ideal quali.

A medium may yield more time in the final part of the track, but you offset it with what you gain through the first part with the extra grip soft, all the drivers will just do very slow outlaps, and will need to avoid corrections throughout the first part to keep the tyres in a good window for the remaining sector.

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Does anyone have the details of the McLaren use of PUs to date?

Max has just used up his fourth and final "free" unit prior to round 10/24 and penalties are obviously coming Red Bull's way.
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen-on ... ter-change