2024 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 28 - 30

[f1onions]

3 tenths slower than pole last year, lets see what they do tomorrow.

[Zynerji]

3 tenths slower than pole last year, lets see what they do tomorrow.

What was the difference in track temp year over year?

[f1onions]

3 tenths slower than pole last year, lets see what they do tomorrow.

What was the difference in track temp year over year?

Last year it was cloudier, so track temp is definitely higher this year. I also think that the added pressure in SQ3 has an negative impact on the times

[j2004p]

3 tenths slower than pole last year, lets see what they do tomorrow.

What was the difference in track temp year over year?

Last year it was cloudier, so track temp is definitely higher this year. I also think that the added pressure in SQ3 has an negative impact on the times

Atmospheric pressure or mental pressure?

[AR3-GP]

The gravel traps are a psychological speed limiter here. It changes how much speed the drivers are willing to carry through the corners. This is clear in T6, T9, and T10.

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The gravel traps are a psychological speed limiter here.

I think it's already proven to be a good solution

[PlatinumZealot]

I think that was Max Verstappen. The cars are equal now.

I didn't really care to see where Perez finished, if he even made Q3? I have no clue. This guy did not deserve a contract based on his driving alone. There is something deeper to this, even more than commercial reasons. This about two things... keeping Max happy and kissing corporate azz!

[TimW]

I think that was Max Verstappen. The cars are equal now.

I didn't really care to see where Perez finished, if he even made Q3? I have no clue. This guy did not deserve a contract based on his driving alone. There is something deeper to this, even more than commercial reasons. This about two things... keeping Max happy and kissing corporate azz!

I honestly doubt current form Perez makes Verstappen happy. With the field closing up Verstappen needs a docile wingman. Perez is docile, but not a wingman in this form.

[Dee]

I think that was Max Verstappen. The cars are equal now.

I didn't really care to see where Perez finished, if he even made Q3? I have no clue. This guy did not deserve a contract based on his driving alone. There is something deeper to this, even more than commercial reasons. This about two things... keeping Max happy and kissing corporate azz!

I think that with Red Bull investing hundreds of millions into RB powertrains, the shareholders are not happy just to win races, they need to sell cans and merchandise. And America is their next big playing field hence Ford coming on board and Checo staying.

If RB had done what Mateschitz and Marko wanted, sell 50% to Porche and let them take half of the cost, we wouldn't be in this position now.

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Tires left after SQ:



Last year the sprint was wet. Two years ago, Medium was the preferred choice



Red Bull will likely take a used set, I guess, to save the new Medium for the race.

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Saving new medium for the race seems logical. However in this scenario at Qatar 2023 i seem to remember some taking new mediums at the sprint

[Sergej]

surely RB will save a new medium for the race

strange choice to save one more hard instead of medium

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Saving new medium for the race seems logical. However in this scenario at Qatar 2023 i seem to remember some taking new mediums at the sprint

even if they only had one new set left?

Tsunoda's 6l Medium must be damaged from the spin, btw, so he probably has one set less now.

[Dunlay]

I think that was Max Verstappen. The cars are equal now.

I didn't really care to see where Perez finished, if he even made Q3? I have no clue. This guy did not deserve a contract based on his driving alone. There is something deeper to this, even more than commercial reasons. This about two things... keeping Max happy and kissing corporate azz!

I think that with Red Bull investing hundreds of millions into RB powertrains, the shareholders are not happy just to win races, they need to sell cans and merchandise. And America is their next big playing field hence Ford coming on board and Checo staying.

If RB had done what Mateschitz and Marko wanted, sell 50% to Porche and let them take half of the cost, we wouldn't be in this position now.

What cost? Red Bull Racing is flushed with sponsorship deal money. Around $500+ million a year just by putting stickers on car. They can only spend 145 million for racing team. 50 million on Max and another 100 million on RBPT. The RBPT infrastructure was built over the past couple of years. It's one time investment and not recurring. Without any pay driver, Red Bull used to spend around $400 million a year on car development before cost cap kicked in. Every team on the grid is profitable entity due to that. I don't think Red Bull GmbH puts a penny on the team. Similar to Daimler and Ferrari.

Perez deal appears dark and confusing. One thing is for sure, it's all Horner. But why, we can a guess a hundred things.

[BMMR61]

I think that was Max Verstappen. The cars are equal now.

I didn't really care to see where Perez finished, if he even made Q3? I have no clue. This guy did not deserve a contract based on his driving alone. There is something deeper to this, even more than commercial reasons. This about two things... keeping Max happy and kissing corporate azz!

I think that with Red Bull investing hundreds of millions into RB powertrains, the shareholders are not happy just to win races, they need to sell cans and merchandise. And America is their next big playing field hence Ford coming on board and Checo staying.

If RB had done what Mateschitz and Marko wanted, sell 50% to Porche and let them take half of the cost, we wouldn't be in this position now.

And simply run a rebadged "Audi" power unit. That would have been interesting....