2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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jambuka
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This floor is same as previous it seems, just stiffer to allow more df and reduce bouncing.

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jambuka wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:49
This floor is same as previous it seems, just stiffer to allow more df and reduce bouncing.
Is there a source for this?

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Newey's terms for the technical leadership role were broader and more complex than imagined, leading to a (perhaps insurmountable) negotiating stalemate.

Money, in fact, is involved in this matter. But not because of Newey's demands, to whom Ferrari would still guarantee about $10 million per season, but because of the costs that the whole operation would entail. The wizard of aerodynamics, Red Bull's technical director for 20 years, would in fact be required to bring along a large group of his loyalists. These would be twenty engineers of some prominence. So the economic impact of the deal would also fall heavily on the team's “budget cap.” As is well known, in fact, only the three highest salaries of an F1 team do not fall under the accounts linked to the budget cap imposed by the regulations: usually those of the team principal and drivers. Therefore, the hiring of the large handful of technicians linked to Newey would impose changes in the Scuderia's current organizational chart as well, in order to have a margin of economic resources to devote to the design and development of the 2026 single-seater. The possibility of diverting some technicians to Ferrari's Endurance program, which just won the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the second time in a row, seems to have been considered, but it would not have been an easy option to implement or decisive. Therefore, behind the abrupt halt in negotiations, there would have been more than just personal reasons for Newey, who wants to live in Britain.

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20 prominent engineers resigning alongside Newey would be quite a big story that's hard to keep quiet. Even if they don't work directly for Red Bull, the idea of them being prominent suggests that it would have been noticed by now if they were on either gardening leave or removed from all F1 related work for Red Bull.

I genuinely find it more plausible that Newey has requested the same or more influence on decision making that he had at Red Bull, and this has gotten predictably under the skin of at least one senior Ferrari member, if not also Vasseur.

I feel like someone like Stroll would be quite happy to offer Newey that level of involvement at Aston Martin and has the flexibility of a still smaller organisation to shuffle about to make it work.

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jambuka wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 08:49
This floor is same as previous it seems, just stiffer to allow more df and reduce bouncing.
How was the stiffness achieved? Is the floor heavier now?

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Ferrari: some news from @F1ingenerale_ on the SF-24 floor modifications for Hungary.

- The floor modifications are not photographically visible and do not concern the shape of the kerb or the Venturi channels. In fact, according to sources, they involve a stiffer specification to improve the cornering behavior of the part in question.

- In fact, a stiffer part allows better management of the vacuum in the Venturi channels, resulting in less “deflection” under maximum load conditions. This allows the largest single-seater component to generate a constant load with no pressure drop, a phenomenon that triggers bouncing in corners.

- To reinforce the lower specification, Ferrari has chosen a different arrangement of carbon fibers or a new load to improve rigidity.

- The innovations presented are probably not the final solution to the SF-24's problems, but they do represent a first step towards the next stage of development. These updates will concern the suspension system, which currently appears to be the SF-24's weak point.
https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1814008089580114285
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yooogurt wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:27
Ferrari: some news from @F1ingenerale_ on the SF-24 floor modifications for Hungary.

- The floor modifications are not photographically visible and do not concern the shape of the kerb or the Venturi channels. In fact, according to sources, they involve a stiffer specification to improve the cornering behavior of the part in question.

- In fact, a stiffer part allows better management of the vacuum in the Venturi channels, resulting in less “deflection” under maximum load conditions. This allows the largest single-seater component to generate a constant load with no pressure drop, a phenomenon that triggers bouncing in corners.

- To reinforce the lower specification, Ferrari has chosen a different arrangement of carbon fibers or a new load to improve rigidity.

- The innovations presented are probably not the final solution to the SF-24's problems, but they do represent a first step towards the next stage of development. These updates will concern the suspension system, which currently appears to be the SF-24's weak point.
https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1814008089580114285
There are actual geometry modifications to the floor, confirmed by the FIA Official Upgrades List Document.

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without bouncing car look strong.
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You can clearly see the car at low speed does what it is supposed to, in this case the upgrades work. No real high speed here, wouldn't be surprised if this is competitive for us.

CouncilorIrissa
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We only need track temp of 60 degrees on every weekend from now on to succeed.

jambuka
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Common LEC. Why do u make so many mistakes ?

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jambuka wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 17:18
Common LEC. Why do u make so many mistakes ?
I feel bad for him but it was unnecessary to push that hard in practice. He has also shown the world Ferraris new floor which rivals might take design cues from
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101FlyingDutchman
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Might see the geometry very soon 😝

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Yikes. Good amount of running to miss out on because of that.