2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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chrisc90 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:01
Id rather the time in S1 than where you cant overtake in S2.
yeah but if they push you out of DRS zone in S2 you won't overtake in S1 next lap

anyway, things in race will be different, kerb riding ability should make less difference, but also S1 supremacy can swing between the two cars

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Sergej wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:10
chrisc90 wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:01
Id rather the time in S1 than where you cant overtake in S2.
yeah but if they push you out of DRS zone in S2 you won't overtake in S1 next lap

anyway, things in race will be different, kerb riding ability should make less difference, but also S1 supremacy can swing between the two cars
Tough to draw conclusions really over the single quali laps given the rapidly evolving track.
Hopefully its a lot hotter today and the work done earlier on race pace in the heat pays off.

Be happy with a podium. P1 or P2 is the aim I think. Norris' race to lose again.....and we know how thats gone recently.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Sergej wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:10
anyway, things in race will be different, kerb riding ability should make less difference, but also S1 supremacy can swing between the two cars
Kerb riding should be an advantage in the race as well for McLaren won't it? It's not like they stay away from the kerbs in slow corners to save the tires?

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I am even more convinced now that Perez crashes the car on purpose whenever there are upgrades, this has gone beyond coincidence or hazard. It's like clockwork.

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:25
Sergej wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:10
anyway, things in race will be different, kerb riding ability should make less difference, but also S1 supremacy can swing between the two cars
Kerb riding should be an advantage in the race as well for McLaren won't it? It's not like they stay away from the kerbs in slow corners to save the tires?
should be, but I think much less; typically, negative characteristics of a car like kerb riding, understeer, etc, are exacerbated in quali with low fuel when you have to attack, but they are less of a problem in race with high fuel; to put it in numbers, I don't expect Max losing 2-3 tenths in the chicane alone like in quali; just my two cents, maybe I'll be severely contradicted :D

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Max was online simracing with his Team Redline till 3.30 AM this night!
He arrived at 11 AM at the circuit.

The Power of Dreams!

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Sleep is for the weak!
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Normal poorly performing drivers :
1. Fail to get out of Q1
The end.

Perez :
1. Fail to get out of Q1 by crashing the car, and give some excuse like "we didn't find balance" to the media, instead of saying "i was stupid"
2. Destroy engine, gearbox, chassis, and the new parts ; thereby diminishing the already limited budget even further
3. Expose the floor to the world and help McLaren Mercedes and Ferrari to learn better

I used to be a supporter, but now it's beyond the point of no return. The team should fire him from the seat for Spa, no need to wait for summer break.

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Wouter wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 12:03
Max was online simracing with his Team Redline till 3.30 AM this night!
He arrived at 11 AM at the circuit.

Seems like a great way to stay distracted and focused at the same time?
Call a spade, a spade.

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:25
Sergej wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 10:10
anyway, things in race will be different, kerb riding ability should make less difference, but also S1 supremacy can swing between the two cars
Kerb riding should be an advantage in the race as well for McLaren won't it? It's not like they stay away from the kerbs in slow corners to save the tires?
I think it will be an advantage but it will probably again show towards the end of the race on low fuel. On high fuel cars typically don't ride the kerbs too much. What Red Bull need to hope is that their low fuel pace is competitive to the McLaren's and that Max can create a sufficient gap to stay ahead at the finish line by somehow passing the McLaren's early on.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Wouter wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 12:03
Max was online simracing with his Team Redline till 3.30 AM this night!
He arrived at 11 AM at the circuit.
I think this is just stupid for a top tier athlete, it WILL impact his performance. He is abusing it now, the team should let him know this is not permissible in race weekends.

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Rikhart wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 13:26
Wouter wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 12:03
Max was online simracing with his Team Redline till 3.30 AM this night!
He arrived at 11 AM at the circuit.
I think this is just stupid for a top tier athlete, it WILL impact his performance. He is abusing it now, the team should let him know this is not permissible in race weekends.
I think we should let his performance do the talking, not everyone's biorhythm is the same.

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Rikhart wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 13:26
Wouter wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 12:03
Max was online simracing with his Team Redline till 3.30 AM this night!
He arrived at 11 AM at the circuit.
.
I think this is just stupid for a top tier athlete, it WILL impact his performance. He is abusing it now, the team should let him know this is not permissible in race weekends.
.
That simracing gives him energy and distraction from what happened this weekend.
He loves to sleep in but he feels also good after 6 hours of sleep.
The Power of Dreams!

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Rikhart wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 13:26
Wouter wrote:
21 Jul 2024, 12:03
Max was online simracing with his Team Redline till 3.30 AM this night!
He arrived at 11 AM at the circuit.
I think this is just stupid for a top tier athlete, it WILL impact his performance. He is abusing it now, the team should let him know this is not permissible in race weekends.
As long as Sergio is allowed to crash cars in Q1 why care about the team anymore. Factory is busy rebuilding standard parts for Sergio instead of working on upgrades.