2024 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 19 - 21

[rijtuig]

What a post to respond to, lol.

[PlatinumZealot]

You guys are so hard to debate with as you don't seem to appreciate basic facts

You'll be the first to say we need to appreciate max's dominance and how great he is. And last year he was great and driving at a high level.

But that doesn't mean you can start disrespecting other drivers when your boy isn't winning anymore and bottling things in a faster car.

Hamilton won that through a brilliant defensive drive and from Max bottling it under pressure, that's it

They are not here for debates. Reading the post you quoted alone gives you a fair picture of the intent of the poster. Reading a few more gives you an even better idea, so don’t take the bait…

Remember to attack the post, not the poster...

I see no attack there. His cautioning the other poster of the general behaviour seen on the forum. "Not here for debates" is in no way an attack. And I also agree that is the trend here. Everyone wants to impress their points without backing down or facing the facts. It is sad what the forum has become.

[Shrieker]

I wish Lauda was still around to call Verstappen expletives to put an end to this.

[toraabe]

Don't forget Perez. 7th overall. From 16th . Perfect drive. Since they were struggling with understeer, that is something Perez handles better than Verstappen.

[zeph]

And I also agree that is the trend here. Everyone wants to impress their points without backing down or facing the facts. It is sad what the forum has become.

I haven’t been here quite as long as you, but I remember going around in circles with certain forumites here when I first joined in 2010. So I would say that is not exactly new.

Anyway, great drive from Piastri, a bit of a blunder from McLaren, salty Norris did the right thing, Hamilton showed world-class defensive driving, and Verstappen lost his s—t.

All in all, an entertaining race. Hungaroring used to be a schnoozefest, but it has been fun in recent years.

[Wouter]

I wish Lauda was still around to call Verstappen expletives to put an end to this.

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Lauda would have said: "Well said champ! Keep doing that till they wake up and do things better. You deserve it!"

[Jurgen von Diaz]

Don't forget Perez. 7th overall. From 16th . Perfect drive. Since they were struggling with understeer, that is something Perez handles better than Verstappen.

Pérez handles slower car better than faster car. What a strange compliment.

[Mr Dean]

Rewatching the Verstappen Hamilton incident, I thought Hamilton was very lucky not to receive a penalty.

I thought it was a racing incident at first, maybe Max could have picked a better spot, but I think he did nothing wrong looking at it properly.

Hamilton's watching his mirror and knows Max is committing to the inside, then immediately turns in (more of a sharp sudden jolt right). Hamilton turns in at the start of the kerbing on his left, which is unnaturally early especially if someone has indicated they are going to commit to a pass on the inside line.

I don't know how the stewards concluded Hamilton took his normal line and turning arc because the normal line for the corner is turning just after the 50 metre mark, even deeper if someone is on your inside like that. Instead Hamilton is turning aggressively (with the first movement) at around the 75-80m mark.

If he carried on with that trajectory, he would have hit the apex before the corner even started. You would only take such an early entry into a corner such as Hamilton did if you were the car on the inside attempting the overtake, yet instead Hamilton has taken such an early entry and shallow line knowing a car is alongside him!

[Mr Dean]

Norris throwing shade at Hamilton in the cool down room sums up why he's buddies with Max. The psychology is fascinating. Norris ONCE AGAIN has failed to capitalise on a race win. How many chances does he need to get a consistent run going, hes feeling intimidated, ego knocked for six. This is why this talk of a title charge is hyperbole, hes got oscar in the other car, A pitwall that might aswell sit on a actual wooden fence , poor starts with poor racecraft at times. Ive heard " this is the first year he's had a car to challenge " I don't give a crap, Lewis, Alonso, Max all stepped up when the opportunity arises. He's in his 6th year in F1, pissing away chances like this is quite frankly......a disgrace. Russell would not be messing about like that. He has clear racecraft on wheel to wheel battles and would of won previous races with it.

Expect to see desperate driving from Norris in Spa. Yes thats right i said it.

I think Norris is entitled to lash out he doesn't need that type of comment. Maybe some people don't realise when someone is mocking them. The implication was I would have beaten you if not for your rocketship, and a passive aggressive reminder that he lost to his teammate. The cooldown room is not for that. It's not a "compliment" Norris needs to hear he's the driver who had little input into the updates, maybe Lewis should have waited to compliment the engineer receiving the constructors trophy on the podium.

There was also a comment in the cooldown room in Silverstone.

“You on soft as well?” Hamilton asked.

Hamilton added: “But you had two new mediums?”

Norris replied: “I know.”

Hamilton said: “Yeah, you could have gone to the medium. A new medium would have been faster probably.”

It's uncalled for. Hamilton's had some tough losses in his career too he wouldn't appreciate being insulted in those moments.

[TeamKoolGreen]

Max & Lando are highly unlikeable. The entitled, new age driver brats, with little or no respect. Lando has hit the big time, and all he’s done is showcase how unprepared and out of his depth he is at the sharp end of the grid.

Speak for yourself.

I guess it's open season on Lando because he didn't show sufficient respekt to hamilton. Who in my opinion is the most highly unlikable on the grid. We aren't even a month removed from his sabotoge allegations and constant petty excuse making. He's never admitted once that George Russell just did a better job than him in 3 years.

New entitled brats. As if. Pretty much every driver from the 80's to 2000's were cold hard greedy jerks. All except maybe Keke Rosberg.

[Mosin123]

Max & Lando are highly unlikeable. The entitled, new age driver brats, with little or no respect. Lando has hit the big time, and all he’s done is showcase how unprepared and out of his depth he is at the sharp end of the grid.

Speak for yourself.

I guess it's open season on Lando because he didn't show sufficient respekt to hamilton. Who in my opinion is the most highly unlikable on the grid. We aren't even a month removed from his sabotoge allegations and constant petty excuse making. He's never admitted once that George Russell just did a better job than him in 3 years.

New entitled brats. As if. Pretty much every driver from the 80's to 2000's were cold hard greedy jerks. All except maybe Keke Rosberg.

you can find quite a good few vids, and interviews on LH saying GR did a good job / congratulating him and the team..

Like did you not watch the siverstone qualy? did you not watch Canada? Austrian GP? LH says WD to GR every time hes ahead in both q and race.

Did you miss when LH said GR would be a world champion? and that he has been a great success,how hes done such a great job, how he has got great points for the team?

Do yuo want him to throw a gd job celebration party GR after every practise session, Q, and race? lol

[ispano6]

Don't forget Perez. 7th overall. From 16th . Perfect drive. Since they were struggling with understeer, that is something Perez handles better than Verstappen.

What are you saying? They weren't even driving the same spec car.

[toraabe]

Don't forget Perez. 7th overall. From 16th . Perfect drive. Since they were struggling with understeer, that is something Perez handles better than Verstappen.

What are you saying? They weren't even driving the same spec car.

same spec or not, it's not a secret that Perez driving style tends to favour understeer more than the current red bull car primary setup

[outer_bongolia]

One thing that comes to mind (sorry if I missed in the previous pages, tried to comb and might have missed):

Could Lando have given the position immediately? Earlier in the race there was a message "it is ok to race the papaya car". If he had given the position and attacked afterwards, Oscar probably would have been asked to not defend much and Lando would have taken the lead back.

I like Lando as a driver - the way he gets his cars alive in the last third of the race is such fine driving. But I would put the blame on him for losing the win.

[Watto]

One thing that comes to mind (sorry if I missed in the previous pages, tried to comb and might have missed):

Could Lando have given the position immediately? Earlier in the race there was a message "it is ok to race the papaya car". If he had given the position and attacked afterwards, Oscar probably would have been asked to not defend much and Lando would have taken the lead back.

I like Lando as a driver - the way he gets his cars alive in the last third of the race is such fine driving. But I would put the blame on him for losing the win.

Could only guess.

I doubt they would go as far as to tell Oscar not to defend. But perhaps Lando could have stuck within the DRS area of Oscar and really put the heat on him for 20 odd laps. I doubt that would have been against McLarens team rules as long as they don't frash/take one another out.