2024 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 26 - 28

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chrisc90 wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 18:20
I can’t see a RBR/max win from the back of the grid. Last year maybe, definitely not this year.

Unless flexi wings occur and some teams get a big nerf. I believe it was spa we might see something if they were flexing?
I remember reading the only purpose of this flexi wing check at Spa is for the 2025 season, to learn how to better write the rules. They are happy with how the teams’ wings are now since they respect the 2024 rules alright. So no neefing expected.

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madsonit wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 18:49
chrisc90 wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 18:20
I can’t see a RBR/max win from the back of the grid. Last year maybe, definitely not this year.

Unless flexi wings occur and some teams get a big nerf. I believe it was spa we might see something if they were flexing?
I remember reading the only purpose of this flexi wing check at Spa is for the 2025 season, to learn how to better write the rules. They are happy with how the teams’ wings are now since they respect the 2024 rules alright. So no neefing expected.
We'll see, They also ran cameras in FP1 and 2 in Hungary so they must be gathering some information. Whether theres a in-season change we wont know yet. They arent scared to clamp down on these things in-season so dont be putting all your eggs in the "it wont happen" basket just yet.
Its already against the rules.
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bauc wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 11:22
Best race on the calendar, should be spicy as I think all top 3 teams will be in their grove this weekend.
Spa doesnt make consistently exciting races at all. It's a majestic track with tricky weather... Sometimes.. The last memorable race here was 2019? I think..
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 03:31
bauc wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 11:22
Best race on the calendar, should be spicy as I think all top 3 teams will be in their grove this weekend.
Spa doesnt make consistently exciting races at all. It's a majestic track with tricky weather... Sometimes.. The last memorable race here was 2019? I think..
Yes last few years was not the best but.... overall is my favorite of them all.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 03:31

Spa doesnt make consistently exciting races at all. It's a majestic track with tricky weather... Sometimes.. The last memorable race here was 2019? I think..
2021 was quite memorable :D .... OK, not too exiting maybe....

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erudite450 wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 16:48
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24 Jul 2024, 16:09
How does Mercedes and AM look here?
It's a high-speed front limited track like Silverstone. The weather is also unpredictable but mild so I expect Mercedes to be very close to McLaren possibly both ahead of Redbull.

No idea what to expect from Aston Martin.
Aerodynamic efficiency is at a premium here. McLaren has more peak downforce it seems but is also quite a bit slower in a straight line compared to Red Bull.

Mercedes also can't seem to nail their low downforce package. I'd watch out for Ferrari, IMO.

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Yes, but McL has probably the best tyre life, and one lap less or more can make a huge difference here because it's a very long lap. The right strategy call will be important. You can lose huge chunk of time if you miss the optimal lap for tyre change.

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mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 10:51
erudite450 wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 16:48
Zynerji wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 16:09
How does Mercedes and AM look here?
It's a high-speed front limited track like Silverstone. The weather is also unpredictable but mild so I expect Mercedes to be very close to McLaren possibly both ahead of Redbull.

No idea what to expect from Aston Martin.
Aerodynamic efficiency is at a premium here. McLaren has more peak downforce it seems but is also quite a bit slower in a straight line compared to Red Bull.

Mercedes also can't seem to nail their low downforce package. I'd watch out for Ferrari, IMO.
Spa is similar to Silverstone in being high speed, front limited. Not sure I'd expect great things from Ferrari here.

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Matt2725 wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 13:36
mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 10:51
erudite450 wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 16:48


It's a high-speed front limited track like Silverstone. The weather is also unpredictable but mild so I expect Mercedes to be very close to McLaren possibly both ahead of Redbull.

No idea what to expect from Aston Martin.
Aerodynamic efficiency is at a premium here. McLaren has more peak downforce it seems but is also quite a bit slower in a straight line compared to Red Bull.

Mercedes also can't seem to nail their low downforce package. I'd watch out for Ferrari, IMO.
Spa is similar to Silverstone in being high speed, front limited. Not sure I'd expect great things from Ferrari here.
Especially if they’re still bouncing.

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This should be a great test for Ferrari :)
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Matt2725 wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 13:36
mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 10:51
erudite450 wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 16:48


It's a high-speed front limited track like Silverstone. The weather is also unpredictable but mild so I expect Mercedes to be very close to McLaren possibly both ahead of Redbull.

No idea what to expect from Aston Martin.
Aerodynamic efficiency is at a premium here. McLaren has more peak downforce it seems but is also quite a bit slower in a straight line compared to Red Bull.

Mercedes also can't seem to nail their low downforce package. I'd watch out for Ferrari, IMO.
Spa is similar to Silverstone in being high speed, front limited. Not sure I'd expect great things from Ferrari here.
The limitation depends on temperature. If it's hot at Spa it becomes rear limited

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Looks like typical Spa weather tomorrow and Saturday. Sunday showers, so race could be dry.

From WeatherPro.

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Mogster wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 22:01
Looks like typical Spa weather tomorrow and Saturday. Sunday showers, so race could be dry.

From WeatherPro.
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Sunday showers? Weather Pro says dry on Sunday and 0.0 mm rain. 8 hours of sunshine.
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organic wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 18:37
Matt2725 wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 13:36
mkay wrote:
25 Jul 2024, 10:51


Aerodynamic efficiency is at a premium here. McLaren has more peak downforce it seems but is also quite a bit slower in a straight line compared to Red Bull.

Mercedes also can't seem to nail their low downforce package. I'd watch out for Ferrari, IMO.
Spa is similar to Silverstone in being high speed, front limited. Not sure I'd expect great things from Ferrari here.
The limitation depends on temperature. If it's hot at Spa it becomes rear limited
Sure but it's looking like it'll be mild at best. Not looking to be a scorcher at least anyway.