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Only the chronically pessimistic Alonso fans can make Newey signing for Aston Martin or Honda works deal bad news. My goodness!

We get it, some have PTSD after 10 years of pain. No longer trusting after having been mistreated so much, like a beaten dog. But if Newey is confirmed Alonso will probably have the highest odds of winning a world championship since 2007

Newey a positive thing, but Honda I'm not sure,because we see that the Mercedes engine pretty damn good in the McLaren especially since when the FIA something banned on Redbull. What they was doing we don't know, but they did lost a lot of speed and grip.

Irrelevant to the 2026 PU, really. Except that Honda designed their PU according to how Newey wanted it.

[peewon]

In my country some " columnists" are saying Newey is coming to AM to building a car for Lance and he will never leave, and the reason to sign with newey would be just give to Lance a better suit with the car, and Newey still will be "an one-driver guy" . What u guys think?

Of course. Everything Lawrence has done in motor racing has been to get Lance to the top. This should not be news.

I don't know how the one driver guy thing will work though. The car will be developed the same. I know in F2, team orders heavily favoured Lance and Lawrence even blocked signing guys like Lando to make sure Lance looks good as an F1 prospect.

It's still the best chance Alonso will have of winning anything. So doesn't matter. But I can bet anything that if Lance is close in terms of winning in a single race or season (long shot), he will get every advantage possible.

[diffuser]

Don't you think that almost always where Newey is or gonna be, suddenly the team rises? Is that a coincidence? Suddenly the team current designers get epiphany from god and do things right? I don't think so.

Well, the last time Adrian Newey changed teams was to RBR in 2006 and it took more than 3 years to start winning races. When he joined Williams in 91, Williams was already a dominate team. It was really only at McLaren that he turned the team around the year he got there and then started dominating in his 2nd year.

Redbull, McLaren and Williams were not Ferrari economically, despite this Newey dominated

They all spent a ton of money.

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[Bill]

Only the chronically pessimistic Alonso fans can make Newey signing for Aston Martin or Honda works deal bad news. My goodness!

We get it, some have PTSD after 10 years of pain. No longer trusting after having been mistreated so much, like a beaten dog. But if Newey is confirmed Alonso will probably have the highest odds of winning a world championship since 2007

Newey a positive thing, but Honda I'm not sure,because we see that the Mercedes engine pretty damn good in the McLaren especially since when the FIA something banned on Redbull. What they was doing we don't know, but they did lost a lot of speed and grip.

Irrelevant to the 2026 PU, really. Except that Honda designed their PU according to how Newey wanted it.

Something banned on the redbull must be honda fault ? what kind of logic is that .the only pu manufacture to stop mercedes domination is honda so they have already proven themself.redbull left renault to win championships and they had.the pu have been frozen so if mclaren are winning is because they made improvements to their car.the regulation are designed to make big performance spread between teams impossible so if redbull are plateauing its by design.

[PapayaFan481]

Don't you think that almost always where Newey is or gonna be, suddenly the team rises? Is that a coincidence? Suddenly the team current designers get epiphany from god and do things right? I don't think so.

Well, the last time Adrian Newey changed teams was to RBR in 2006 and it took more than 3 years to start winning races. When he joined Williams in 91, Williams was already a dominate team. It was really only at McLaren that he turned the team around the year he got there and then started dominating in his 2nd year.

Redbull, McLaren and Williams were not Ferrari economically, despite this Newey dominated

McLaren in the 90s had pockets every bit as deep as Ferrari.

[diffuser]

Only the chronically pessimistic Alonso fans can make Newey signing for Aston Martin or Honda works deal bad news. My goodness!

We get it, some have PTSD after 10 years of pain. No longer trusting after having been mistreated so much, like a beaten dog. But if Newey is confirmed Alonso will probably have the highest odds of winning a world championship since 2007

Newey a positive thing, but Honda I'm not sure,because we see that the Mercedes engine pretty damn good in the McLaren especially since when the FIA something banned on Redbull. What they was doing we don't know, but they did lost a lot of speed and grip.

Irrelevant to the 2026 PU, really. Except that Honda designed their PU according to how Newey wanted it.

Like what ? The ICE and MGU-H were already redesigned prior to STR and they were having a ton of problems ironing out the bugs.

[ispano6]

Newey a positive thing, but Honda I'm not sure,because we see that the Mercedes engine pretty damn good in the McLaren especially since when the FIA something banned on Redbull. What they was doing we don't know, but they did lost a lot of speed and grip.

Irrelevant to the 2026 PU, really. Except that Honda designed their PU according to how Newey wanted it.

Like what ? The ICE and MGU-H were already redesigned prior to STR and they were having a ton of problems ironing out the bugs.

Layout of components to accommodate bodywork, cooling, suspension geometry and COG(center of mass) targets.

[zoroastar]

Only the chronically pessimistic Alonso fans can make Newey signing for Aston Martin or Honda works deal bad news. My goodness!

We get it, some have PTSD after 10 years of pain. No longer trusting after having been mistreated so much, like a beaten dog. But if Newey is confirmed Alonso will probably have the highest odds of winning a world championship since 2007

Newey a positive thing, but Honda I'm not sure,because we see that the Mercedes engine pretty damn good in the McLaren especially since when the FIA something banned on Redbull. What they was doing we don't know, but they did lost a lot of speed and grip.

whatever the FIA did to redbull it probably had nothing to do with honda. more likely to do with asymetrical braking

[diffuser]

Irrelevant to the 2026 PU, really. Except that Honda designed their PU according to how Newey wanted it.

Like what ? The ICE and MGU-H were already redesigned prior to STR and they were having a ton of problems ironing out the bugs.

Layout of components to accommodate bodywork, cooling, suspension geometry and COG(center of mass) targets.

Non of that is built by Honda. The block was also redesigned prior to leaving McLaren.

[zoroastar]

Like what ? The ICE and MGU-H were already redesigned prior to STR and they were having a ton of problems ironing out the bugs.

Layout of components to accommodate bodywork, cooling, suspension geometry and COG(center of mass) targets.

Non of that is built by Honda. The block was also redesigned prior to leaving McLaren.

gearbox design may be able to be packaged differently or smaller and possibly some changes to some ancillary parts. idk how much honda changed between seasons after they swapped to the mercedes layout. (now i cant remember if honda builds the gearbox)

[diffuser]

Layout of components to accommodate bodywork, cooling, suspension geometry and COG(center of mass) targets.

Non of that is built by Honda. The block was also redesigned prior to leaving McLaren.

gearbox design may be able to be packaged differently or smaller and possibly some changes to some ancillary parts. idk how much honda changed between seasons after they swapped to the mercedes layout. (now i cant remember if honda builds the gearbox)

RBR build their own gearboxes and the connection from ICE to the gearbox has to be universal.

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