Vasseur has become Binotto full on 100%
Fred: "the balance was good"
Ferrari drivers: "the balance was ---". Lots of understeer
I was actually just looking on F1 tempo. You are right Sainz was on for pole, shame it slipped away.Sevach wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:35Sainz was ahead of Norris after S2(only just) and loses a lot in S3.Space-heat wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:14All positive. Charles was fuming at P4, Bryan said they were losing .180s in T1-2, seems like the slow speed is an issue. However, hopefully those laps on used Soft in FP3 point to strong tire performance for the race. Only worry is being bottled up by George in the first stint and not being able to fight with Mclaren (if the race pace is there).
Seems like Charles is the opposite, they must've gone in different directions setup wise.
Waiting to see lap comparisons.
Hopefully the car good tire usage has been preserved.
Here is Federico Albano - notes the higher top speed.Space-heat wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:59I was actually just looking on F1 tempo. You are right Sainz was on for pole, shame it slipped away.Sevach wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:35Sainz was ahead of Norris after S2(only just) and loses a lot in S3.Space-heat wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:14All positive. Charles was fuming at P4, Bryan said they were losing .180s in T1-2, seems like the slow speed is an issue. However, hopefully those laps on used Soft in FP3 point to strong tire performance for the race. Only worry is being bottled up by George in the first stint and not being able to fight with Mclaren (if the race pace is there).
Seems like Charles is the opposite, they must've gone in different directions setup wise.
Waiting to see lap comparisons.
Hopefully the car good tire usage has been preserved.
https://i.imgur.com/pnliLDg.png
Looking at Rus, Sainz, Lec, Piastri and Norris. Ferrari are much quicker on all the straights (low df). DRS is diminished here but better to have the best top speed for any overtaking chance.
You should compare the first lap of Lando. I made the same mistake. He apparently messed something up in his last run on the first chicane and was down ~0.12s compared to his first lap.Space-heat wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:59I was actually just looking on F1 tempo. You are right Sainz was on for pole, shame it slipped away.Sevach wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:35Sainz was ahead of Norris after S2(only just) and loses a lot in S3.Space-heat wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:14All positive. Charles was fuming at P4, Bryan said they were losing .180s in T1-2, seems like the slow speed is an issue. However, hopefully those laps on used Soft in FP3 point to strong tire performance for the race. Only worry is being bottled up by George in the first stint and not being able to fight with Mclaren (if the race pace is there).
Seems like Charles is the opposite, they must've gone in different directions setup wise.
Waiting to see lap comparisons.
Hopefully the car good tire usage has been preserved.
https://i.imgur.com/pnliLDg.png
Looking at Rus, Sainz, Lec, Piastri and Norris. Ferrari are much quicker on all the straights (low df). DRS is diminished here but better to have the best top speed for any overtaking chance.
Looking at Leclerc vs Sainz's final laps, it's crazy how much Sainz was up on him until S3. He has a huge negative delta to in S1, but then it just slowly slips away until he loses it at the very, very end of S3. Norris' first lap is the same thing, Sainz is massively up in S1 but then it goes away in the final part of S3.Space-heat wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:59I was actually just looking on F1 tempo. You are right Sainz was on for pole, shame it slipped away.
Looking at Rus, Sainz, Lec, Piastri and Norris. Ferrari are much quicker on all the straights (low df). DRS is diminished here but better to have the best top speed for any overtaking chance.
The main problem for Sainz will be race. If things didn't change from yesterday it will be a disaster.ScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 18:12Looking at Leclerc vs Sainz's final laps, it's crazy how much Sainz was up on him until S3. He has a huge negative delta to in S1, but then it just slowly slips away until he loses it at the very, very end of S3. Norris' first lap is the same thing, Sainz is massively up in S1 but then it goes away in the final part of S3.Space-heat wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 17:59I was actually just looking on F1 tempo. You are right Sainz was on for pole, shame it slipped away.
Looking at Rus, Sainz, Lec, Piastri and Norris. Ferrari are much quicker on all the straights (low df). DRS is diminished here but better to have the best top speed for any overtaking chance.
However according to his own interview, the only reason he had such a good S1 was because he was consciously sacrificing the final part of the lap, I don't think pole was actually on the table here. It wasn't like he made any mistakes in S3, his lap was very good, the car simply couldn't compete in all sectors at once.
in the post qualifying interview on Sky, Leclerc said Sainz' S1 was faster due to a different setup, thoughScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 18:12Looking at Leclerc vs Sainz's final laps, it's crazy how much Sainz was up on him until S3. He has a huge negative delta to in S1, but then it just slowly slips away until he loses it at the very, very end of S3. Norris' first lap is the same thing, Sainz is massively up in S1 but then it goes away in the final part of S3.
However according to his own interview, the only reason he had such a good S1 was because he was consciously sacrificing the final part of the lap, I don't think pole was actually on the table here. It wasn't like he made any mistakes in S3, his lap was very good, the car simply couldn't compete in all sectors at once.