2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:27
"Free win"

When will people learn there are no free wins this season?
it was a free win, the car was the fastest, just had to close the line once / twice while he warmed up the tyres at the beginning of the second stint, and I'm sure he would have brought 10 seconds at least to Oscar.
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Positive side is the pace again.
And Red Bull not so far, can be beaten in WCC

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Xyz22 wrote:I think Sainz can risk a grid penalty in Singapore
Crash is not his fault. But nothing would have happened without the attack.

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yooogurt wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:34
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:27
"Free win"

When will people learn there are no free wins this season?
it was a free win, the car was the fastest, just had to close the line once / twice while he warmed up the tyres at the beginning of the second stint, and I'm sure he would have brought 10 seconds at least to Oscar.
You have 0 way of knowing that. Charles said the setup made it super difficult to manage in the race and the hards felt really bad.

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yooogurt wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:34
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:27
"Free win"

When will people learn there are no free wins this season?
it was a free win, the car was the fastest, just had to close the line once / twice while he warmed up the tyres at the beginning of the second stint, and I'm sure he would have brought 10 seconds at least to Oscar.
We shouldn't be in that situation in the first place with a 6s advantage in the first stint. Just poorly managed by everyone.
dialtone wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:35
Xyz22 wrote:I think Sainz can risk a grid penalty in Singapore
Crash is not his fault. But nothing would have happened without the attack.
He slightly moved to the left... I have bad vibes

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Xyz22 wrote:
dialtone wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:35
Xyz22 wrote:I think Sainz can risk a grid penalty in Singapore
Crash is not his fault. But nothing would have happened without the attack.
He slightly moved to the left... I have bad vibes
He was ahead and following race line. Checo had half track available to his left and knows the racing line.

Checo was distracted somehow but that’s usually ruled against the car behind in all racing series.

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Horrible last two laps by Leclerc and shocking outlap compared to Oscar :

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>4 seconds lost in just a handful of laps.

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Pretty impressed with the McLaren top speed really

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Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:42
Horrible last two laps by Leclerc and shocking outlap compared to Oscar :

https://i.imgur.com/K870CP5.png

>4 seconds lost in just a handful of laps.
As i said tyres were finished. Gaining 6s on a McLaren is not free. The slow intro is --- insane, this can't be just due to Leclerc alone. They probably decided this with the team. It was stupid.

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Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:42
Horrible last two laps by Leclerc and shocking outlap compared to Oscar :

https://i.imgur.com/K870CP5.png

>4 seconds lost in just a handful of laps.
The tyre was completely gone. Ferrari should have pitted the lap Piastri did since they would have known that

a. Piastri would need to come in to cover Checo

b. Everyone's tyres were falling off a cliff

https://imgur.com/a/NjJu8cY

Stole this from https://x.com/Fred__18/status/1835313400320057561

The error was mostly strategic, but then obviously Charles himself agreed that he should have defended better.
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Xyz22 wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:36
We shouldn't be in that situation in the first place with a 6s advantage in the first stint. Just poorly managed by everyone.
Charles was right not to attack at the beginning of the stint, yes he let Oscar get closer, but it is important for the whole stint that the tyres were enough, and he could easily defend the position and continue to increase the advantage, while Oscar would have killed his tyres in the dirty air, but in the end Charles as in Miami slept Oscar's divebomb, and ruined everything.
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Emag wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:42
Horrible last two laps by Leclerc and shocking outlap compared to Oscar :

https://i.imgur.com/K870CP5.png

>4 seconds lost in just a handful of laps.
3s difference in the outlap is crazy, absolutely crazy.

This is what killed us.

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I don't blame Leclerc. How can you compete with this?

A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:50
I don't blame Leclerc. How can you compete with this?

I'm sure the teams noticed this behavior well before we've noticed it. So, you compete with this by making something similar.

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CaribouBread wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:53
AR3-GP wrote:
15 Sep 2024, 15:50
I don't blame Leclerc. How can you compete with this?

I'm sure the teams noticed this behavior well before we've noticed it. So, you compete with this by making something similar.
Exactly. All rear wings flex, and you can see the gap increases slightly in all rear wings on high-speed. But I have never seen a rear wing flex at the tips like that. Minimal drag reduction, but a reduction nonetheless.

McLaren is taking a lot of liberty with the flexing now, both at the front and at the rear.