2024 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 20 - 22

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I would be curious about those 2 1:39s in LEC’s pace. That’s probably traffic.

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dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:37
I would be curious about those 2 1:39s in LEC’s pace. That’s probably traffic.
They all had boat load of traffic. Very few laps were clean.

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dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:37
I would be curious about those 2 1:39s in LEC’s pace. That’s probably traffic.
They all had boat load of traffic. Very few laps were clean.
Fair but they are 2 of the 3 slowest lap among ALL the laps in the image. They look like outliers to me to remove.

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dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:45
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dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:37

I would be curious about those 2 1:39s in LEC’s pace. That’s probably traffic.
They all had boat load of traffic. Very few laps were clean.
Fair but they are 2 of the 3 slowest lap among ALL the laps in the image. They look like outliers to me to remove.
Charles' race pace if you remove those two laps

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Luscion wrote:
dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:45
Dunlay wrote:They all had boat load of traffic. Very few laps were clean.
Fair but they are 2 of the 3 slowest lap among ALL the laps in the image. They look like outliers to me to remove.
Charles' race pace if you remove those two laps

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Thank you!

So they removed the 1:39.5 from NOR but not the 1:39s from LEC, I wonder what their methodology is because it seems a bit off.

Race pace is good but only thing that matters is the single lap and Lando has great cornering in the last chicane and can be very aggressive there making up all his gains. Will be an interesting quali.

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dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:45
Dunlay wrote:
dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:37

I would be curious about those 2 1:39s in LEC’s pace. That’s probably traffic.
They all had boat load of traffic. Very few laps were clean.
Fair but they are 2 of the 3 slowest lap among ALL the laps in the image. They look like outliers to me to remove.
I don't like this lap chart as it skews the picture a lot. Leclerc spent some time trying to pass Bottas.

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Luscion wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:48
dialtone wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:45
Dunlay wrote:They all had boat load of traffic. Very few laps were clean.
Fair but they are 2 of the 3 slowest lap among ALL the laps in the image. They look like outliers to me to remove.
Charles' race pace if you remove those two laps

https://preview.redd.it/fp2-top-4-teams ... f65ff2d356
Much better.

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Norris lost some time behind a Sauber as well, though. Those 37.4 and 37.8 were already significantly influenced by traffic.

Both him and Leclerc were struggling to get past that almost 2s slower car, by the way.

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Raining in Singapore, back to no grip for fp3


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Great performance today by VCARB after their track-specific update to the front wing. It will be interesting to see if they can produce such performance in the qualifying and in the race.
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Their long run looked bad, so I guess they may need to sacrifice a bit of quali pace. Williams was the other way around: among the best on the race tires, not much improvements on softs.

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20 Sep 2024, 22:24
Their long run looked bad, so I guess they may need to sacrifice a bit of quali pace. Williams was the other way around: among the best on the race tires, not much improvements on softs.
Why would you sacrifice qualy pace here?

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 22:41
search wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 22:24
Their long run looked bad, so I guess they may need to sacrifice a bit of quali pace. Williams was the other way around: among the best on the race tires, not much improvements on softs.
Why would you sacrifice qualy pace here?
Well there's always a line where your race pace/tire life could be so devastating that you'd be guaranteed to get no points no matter where you start on the grid.

Even when teams do prioritize quali, it's only to a certain degree. You can always overdo it, except maybe at Monaco.

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It wasn't even so much about degredation, by the look of it. As far as I could see, the Racing Bulls were running most downforce of all teams, which can work out fine in quali with 4xDRS, but in the longrun they were losing massive ground on every straight. Imo too much to stay ahead, even on a track like this.

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20 Sep 2024, 23:20
It wasn't even so much about degredation, by the look of it. As far as I could see, the Racing Bulls were running most downforce of all teams, which can work out fine in quali with 4xDRS, but in the longrun they were losing massive ground on every straight. Imo too much to stay ahead, even on a track like this.
How is that possible? I thought Singapore was Max downforce. Isn't it possible that Racing Bulls just turned down the PU in the race sims? Honda's reliability this year has been questionable. They probably need to be cautious.