2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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SilviuAgo wrote:
21 Sep 2024, 19:08
As Daniel Valente said it on X:

Only four McLaren drivers have qualified on pole at least 5 times in a single season over the last 3 decades:

• Lando Norris (2024)
• Lewis Hamilton (2012, 2008, 2007)
• Kimi Raikkonen (2005)
• Mika Hakkinen (1999, 1998)

Welcome to the club, Lando.
Even more than the Honda years of the past decade, being a McLaren fan in the 2004-05 period was truly soul crushing. Such a fast car, such great drivers, such bad reliability, such terrible luck

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https://www.racefans.net/2024/09/21/mcl ... d-herring/

Stella suggesting tge RW "trick" brought no benefit.

Lando also talking about how hard it was to extract the full pace from the car yesterday.
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Nikolas Tombazis, the FIA’s single seater director: “The wing passed all the tests and satisfied what was written in the technical directives,” he told Sky Italia. “It did not deserve this exaggeration.”

For some reason I can't link to the article, but Tombazis also mentioned how the direction of the sunlight exegerated the perception of the gap size. This is something that immediately caught my attention when I first saw the video.
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mwillems wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 08:54
https://www.racefans.net/2024/09/21/mcl ... d-herring/

Stella suggesting tge RW "trick" brought no benefit.

Lando also talking about how hard it was to extract the full pace from the car yesterday.
I love Stella's clap backs, he's so eloquent

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The thing is, with a proper warmup and all, I think there was a tenth or two left in the McLaren.
Red Bull and Mercedes went all out and did the best they could.

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K1Plus wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:07
The thing is, with a proper warmup and all, I think there was a tenth or two left in the McLaren.
Red Bull and Mercedes went all out and did the best they could.
There was probably that time you suggested left in the Mclaren. Max was actually .250 up on his lap when Sainz crashed to his final run in Q3. Looks like the track started to fall away as the temperature cooled slightly. Unfortunately cant see the telemetry for the aborted lap from lando when there was a red flag, so hard to know where he was in relation to Max.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Great job by the team, lando dominant from the off.
Piastri p5 not ideal but at least we know he will apply pressure to both mercs and max.
A great shame that max managed to pull p2 out of the bag and fair play to them. I think as pleased as I'd be with a norris win today, if max finished p2 it almost certainly closes the door on the WDC imo. It would leave too much to do in remaing races but it will be interesting to see how close it will be at the end. I get the feeling the hungry switch and monza will be the difference.

So far as the WCC goes Singapore is looking great. I see ferrari as biggest rivals and with both being so far down the 51 point gap could easily become 75+.

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chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:13
K1Plus wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:07
The thing is, with a proper warmup and all, I think there was a tenth or two left in the McLaren.
Red Bull and Mercedes went all out and did the best they could.
There was probably that time you suggested left in the Mclaren. Max was actually .250 up on his lap when Sainz crashed to his final run in Q3. Looks like the track started to fall away as the temperature cooled slightly. Unfortunately cant see the telemetry for the aborted lap from lando when there was a red flag, so hard to know where he was in relation to Max.
I’m pretty sure Lando was a tenth up on Max at the end of sector 2, Lando was purple, purple for those red flag laps
Just a fan's point of view

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Balalu wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 10:25
Nikolas Tombazis, the FIA’s single seater director: “The wing passed all the tests and satisfied what was written in the technical directives,” he told Sky Italia. “It did not deserve this exaggeration.”

For some reason I can't link to the article, but Tombazis also mentioned how the direction of the sunlight exegerated the perception of the gap size. This is something that immediately caught my attention when I first saw the video.
In a world of social media children anything like this will get exaggerated.
Especially when the content creators have their own agendas too
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:28
chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:13
K1Plus wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:07
The thing is, with a proper warmup and all, I think there was a tenth or two left in the McLaren.
Red Bull and Mercedes went all out and did the best they could.
There was probably that time you suggested left in the Mclaren. Max was actually .250 up on his lap when Sainz crashed to his final run in Q3. Looks like the track started to fall away as the temperature cooled slightly. Unfortunately cant see the telemetry for the aborted lap from lando when there was a red flag, so hard to know where he was in relation to Max.
I’m pretty sure Lando was a tenth up on Max at the end of sector 2, Lando was purple, purple for those red flag laps
That will have been purple/purple against Oscar as he was P1 at the time - due to Max having not yet completed a lap.

Sector 1
Oscar: 26.675
Max: 26.560
Lando: 26.506

Sector 2
Oscar:37.981 Total: 64.656
Max:37.676 Total: 64.236
Lando: 37.634 Total: 64.140

Sector 3:
Oscar: 25.381
Max:25.555

So yeah, I agree Lando was 1 tenth up at sector 2, well just short of at 0.096. Guess it depends how the remainder of the lap would have went. Sure Lando would have been pole.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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CjC wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:28
chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:13
K1Plus wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:07
The thing is, with a proper warmup and all, I think there was a tenth or two left in the McLaren.
Red Bull and Mercedes went all out and did the best they could.
There was probably that time you suggested left in the Mclaren. Max was actually .250 up on his lap when Sainz crashed to his final run in Q3. Looks like the track started to fall away as the temperature cooled slightly. Unfortunately cant see the telemetry for the aborted lap from lando when there was a red flag, so hard to know where he was in relation to Max.
I’m pretty sure Lando was a tenth up on Max at the end of sector 2, Lando was purple, purple for those red flag laps
Lando was nearly 7 tenths up at one point vs his pole lap. He slowed a little down to a 2 tenths gap, before slowing massively. But his time would have smashed his eventual pole by just under half a second.
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42 minutes before the race starts and I am anxious of Lando's race start. The team said they found and fixed whatever problem Norris had in his starts so I expect him to do a good start.

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chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:43
CjC wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:28
chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 12:13


There was probably that time you suggested left in the Mclaren. Max was actually .250 up on his lap when Sainz crashed to his final run in Q3. Looks like the track started to fall away as the temperature cooled slightly. Unfortunately cant see the telemetry for the aborted lap from lando when there was a red flag, so hard to know where he was in relation to Max.
I’m pretty sure Lando was a tenth up on Max at the end of sector 2, Lando was purple, purple for those red flag laps
That will have been purple/purple against Oscar as he was P1 at the time - due to Max having not yet completed a lap.

Sector 1
Oscar: 26.675
Max: 26.560
Lando: 26.506

Sector 2
Oscar:37.981 Total: 64.656
Max:37.676 Total: 64.236
Lando: 37.634 Total: 64.140

Sector 3:
Oscar: 25.381
Max:25.555

So yeah, I agree Lando was 1 tenth up at sector 2, well just short of at 0.096. Guess it depends how the remainder of the lap would have went. Sure Lando would have been pole.
RedBull struggled in the last sector because they can't ride the kerbs in the penultimate chicane. Not unrealistic to assume Lando would have taken another 1 or 2 tenths out of him in the last sector. So, yeah, a low 29s should have been possible for Lando, whereas Max could have been right around or a bit faster than the lap that ended up being pole later.

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What was the difference in the sectors lando vs Max on the final lap of Q3?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 13:18
42 minutes before the race starts and I am anxious of Lando's race start. The team said they found and fixed whatever problem Norris had in his starts so I expect him to do a good start.
Yeah, hopefully the start works out for him. Best of luck to us all! 😁