The problem that nobody helps for also as a team mate,nobody faster from him in some sectors so he could improve also. For Alonso literally useless to look at Stroll telemetry. At Mercedes or McLaren the team mates push each other to the limits, this missing from Aston. Still Stroll the 2nd driver Alonso will not be 3th world champion for sure even with a rocket car.
That's an interesting point but drivers can't always do what other drivers do. Looking at Max's telemetry hasn't helped Perez. Also, on the occasion that Perez has been faster than Maz, looking at Perez's telemetry hasn't helped Max.OnEcRiTiCaL wrote: ↑05 Oct 2024, 19:45The problem that nobody helps for also as a team mate,nobody faster from him in some sectors so he could improve also. For Alonso literally useless to look at Stroll telemetry. At Mercedes or McLaren the team mates push each other to the limits, this missing from Aston. Still Stroll the 2nd driver Alonso will not be 3th world champion for sure even with a rocket car.
Not if the car is another championship contender. Fred would simply go out and win another championship and make it 4 on the bounce. That pattern would continue until Aston Newey no longer made a championship contending car. Should that end up being 5 years of contending, then Fred would win 5 more championships. The end.
Or Stroll beat himChuckjr wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 09:43Not if the car is another championship contender. Fred would simply go out and win another championship and make it 4 on the bounce. That pattern would continue until Aston Newey no longer made a championship contending car. Should that end up being 5 years of contending, then Fred would win 5 more championships. The end.
Who knows? Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Otmar comes across as a politician who will muddy the waters to protect his own brand. This is the same guy who served as a mouthpiece for Rossi and said Alonso was responsible for all of his engine failures.Nikosar wrote: ↑07 Oct 2024, 12:39Interesting interview from Otmar at High Performance where he revealed that he left Aston because Martin Whitmarsh joined as CEO and took off from him all the responsibilities. He claims that he passed from controlling 90% of the f1 team to 10%.
Very hard to believe that this is the real reason of his departure. Do you think Krack under Whitmarsh had the same % of control ? And do you think this is still the case with Andy Cowell ?
Many articles prior to Newey arrival were claiming that Whitmarsh was an obstacle to the signature because of what happened between them at McLaren.
Sounds good to me. May Alonso/Newey/Honda/Aramco’s reign live long and prosperChuckjr wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 09:43Not if the car is another championship contender. Fred would simply go out and win another championship and make it 4 on the bounce. That pattern would continue until Aston Newey no longer made a championship contending car. Should that end up being 5 years of contending, then Fred would win 5 more championships. The end.
Pretty common way to tell someone they're not wanted anymore without firing them. Remember, Otmar had hired most of tge people there and worked with them for a long time. Outright firing him might have soured the mood over at the factory.
Otmar paints himself as the best guy in the world to work for. i remember in drive to survive i got the feeling that there is a lot more to the picture. he pretty much pushed alonso out the door at alpine, without anyone to replace him, and then talked trash about alonso, zack brown, piastri, and no telling who else haha. that new interview is a bunch more of the same blame game. no one in f1 is that much of a victim without a reason. just my opinion.TyreSlip wrote: ↑07 Oct 2024, 13:05Who knows? Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Otmar comes across as a politician who will muddy the waters to protect his own brand. This is the same guy who served as a mouthpiece for Rossi and said Alonso was responsible for all of his engine failures.Nikosar wrote: ↑07 Oct 2024, 12:39Interesting interview from Otmar at High Performance where he revealed that he left Aston because Martin Whitmarsh joined as CEO and took off from him all the responsibilities. He claims that he passed from controlling 90% of the f1 team to 10%.
Very hard to believe that this is the real reason of his departure. Do you think Krack under Whitmarsh had the same % of control ? And do you think this is still the case with Andy Cowell ?
Many articles prior to Newey arrival were claiming that Whitmarsh was an obstacle to the signature because of what happened between them at McLaren.
Ive always found him to be a bit dodgy. This is what I said about him in a post on this verry forum in 2021 when he was touted be joining Alpine as TP...zoroastar wrote: ↑08 Oct 2024, 06:35
Otmar paints himself as the best guy in the world to work for. i remember in drive to survive i got the feeling that there is a lot more to the picture. he pretty much pushed alonso out the door at alpine, without anyone to replace him, and then talked trash about alonso, zack brown, piastri, and no telling who else haha. that new interview is a bunch more of the same blame game. no one in f1 is that much of a victim without a reason. just my opinion.
viewtopic.php?p=1009746&hilit=otmar#p1009746On to Szafnauer. This is entirely based on his interviews with Sky when they have a team principal join commentary mid-session for a weekend. So may not be worth much, but he seems to completely lack any objectivity. Which I suppose is part of the job of the team principal (to present his team in the best light) when talking to the media. But while other TP's often do it with subtlety and statesmanship, OS has all the nuance of a carnival barker. Budkowski seems far more measured, intelligent and self-aware whenever Ive heard him speak.
His comments after the brake duct controversy and aero rule changes for this year are also fairly embarrassing imo. Sounded like someone trying to cover up their own incompetence or possibly acting as a mouth piece for someone like Lawrence Stroll or Toto.
