2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Binotto made some interesting comments today.

From your privileged position, what do you see in Vasseur’s Ferrari? "Rather than what I see in Vasseur, it’s what I see in Ferrari. Fred has been able to carry forward the project with continuity—he hasn’t revolutionized a structured and functional organization. He’s also made his own choices, but as I said, when Ferrari wins, I’m happy because I know how much work went into getting it to that level."

Would you have signed Hamilton to Ferrari? "No. But he made a very good decision in joining Ferrari, and I support his choice."

Why not? "Because Ferrari had already committed to other drivers. And if Leclerc is the talent, I believe he’s the one who should be guided towards the goal."
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... 7xlk.shtml

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 19:58

Why not? "Because Ferrari had already committed to other drivers. And if Leclerc is the talent, I believe he’s the one who should be guided towards the goal."
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... 7xlk.shtml
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For those who accused Binotto of hating Leclerc...
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 20:57
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 19:58

Why not? "Because Ferrari had already committed to other drivers. And if Leclerc is the talent, I believe he’s the one who should be guided towards the goal."
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... 7xlk.shtml
For those who accused Binotto of hating Leclerc...
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Binotto says that but Its something Leclerc wanted (both articles from this week)
Yesterday Frédéric Vasseur and Charles Leclerc were among the protagonists at the Festival of Sport.

It is no longer a secret that the Monegasque has been alerted to the negotiations with Lewis Hamilton, with Leclerc gladly accepting the challenge: “Charles has always agreed and that has led me to push hard for it to happen.

https://formu1a.uno/it/vasseur-leclerc- ... -hamilton/

I knew about the negotiations with Lewis, for me to have him next to me will be an additional challenge with everything he has won. I am very happy with his arrival and I am looking forward to it, because from every teammate you can learn. For me it will also be a great opportunity to show what I can do in the car.
https://formu1a.uno/it/leclerc-larrivo- ... he-per-me/

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 19:58
Binotto made some interesting comments today.

From your privileged position, what do you see in Vasseur’s Ferrari? "Rather than what I see in Vasseur, it’s what I see in Ferrari. Fred has been able to carry forward the project with continuity—he hasn’t revolutionized a structured and functional organization. He’s also made his own choices, but as I said, when Ferrari wins, I’m happy because I know how much work went into getting it to that level."

Would you have signed Hamilton to Ferrari? "No. But he made a very good decision in joining Ferrari, and I support his choice."

Why not? "Because Ferrari had already committed to other drivers. And if Leclerc is the talent, I believe he’s the one who should be guided towards the goal."
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... 7xlk.shtml
He should have avoided the topic, or at least give a completely neutral generative answer. Clear's comments in the F1 podcast must have hurt him a lot. Still delusional and in denial in any case, it's sad...
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Luscion wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 21:01
AR3-GP wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 20:57
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 19:58

Why not? "Because Ferrari had already committed to other drivers. And if Leclerc is the talent, I believe he’s the one who should be guided towards the goal."
https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... 7xlk.shtml


For those who accused Binotto of hating Leclerc...
Binotto says that but Its something Leclerc wanted (both articles from this week)
Yesterday Frédéric Vasseur and Charles Leclerc were among the protagonists at the Festival of Sport.

It is no longer a secret that the Monegasque has been alerted to the negotiations with Lewis Hamilton, with Leclerc gladly accepting the challenge: “Charles has always agreed and that has led me to push hard for it to happen.

https://formu1a.uno/it/vasseur-leclerc- ... -hamilton/

I knew about the negotiations with Lewis, for me to have him next to me will be an additional challenge with everything he has won. I am very happy with his arrival and I am looking forward to it, because from every teammate you can learn. For me it will also be a great opportunity to show what I can do in the car.
https://formu1a.uno/it/leclerc-larrivo- ... he-per-me/
Luscion you are being naive :lol:

This Hamilton mission was pushed on Vasseur and Leclerc by those above them. Everyone has to "say the right thing" to keep the peace at Ferrari.

Binotto actually created a sandbox for Leclerc and would have kept Sainz. It is those who have succeeded Binotto who are now creating obstacles, missions, and directives that are not in Leclerc's interest but you won't see people accuse them of hating Leclerc like they did to Binotto.

Binotto may be guilty of technical and/or political errors, but he always intended to entrust the team to Leclerc when Leclerc and the team were ready to win a championship, rather than give it away to an outsider (Hamilton).

For Leclerc, all he can do now is make the most of it. Beat Hamilton and gain some reputation points and hope Ferrari stops shopping for more outsiders after Hamilton leaves. It should be Bearman next. Not another "decree" for an outsider.
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Max' fans obsessing about Leclerc and Hamilton is gonna bring about 500 pages alone in Ferrari thread next year...
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Why not? "Because Ferrari had already committed to other drivers. And if Leclerc is the talent, I believe he’s the one who should be guided towards the goal."
To think, the whole Hamilton fanbase is going to hate , scorn and wish failure on the Audi F1 team now and for the foreseeable future over this very softy worded quote from Binotto.

I only found out about this because my whole F1 timeline is full of it already. And youtube videos.

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 21:22
This Hamilton mission was pushed on Vasseur and Leclerc by those above them. Everyone has to "say the right thing" to keep the peace at Ferrari.

Binotto actually created a sandbox for Leclerc and would have kept Sainz. It is those who have succeeded Binotto who are now creating obstacles, missions, and directives that are not in Leclerc's interest but you won't see people accuse them of hating Leclerc like they did to Binotto.

For Leclerc, all he can do now is make the most of it. Beat Hamilton and gain some reputation points and hope Ferrari stops shopping for more outsiders after Hamilton leaves. It should be Bearman next. Not another "decree" for an outsider.
So much truth in your post. Bueno.

All the niceties will stop if Ferrari brings a championship contending car and both drivers think Ferrari will side with them to take it. Disaster if that happens.

If they go with supporting Lewis, they alienate CL and he walks because Ferrari sided with an outsider who waltzed in because upper management felt it was a good idea to bring in a sour has-been. :) The decision to sign Lewis had NOTHING to do with team unity and what’s best for Charles as the tenured Ferrari driver — it was done entirely for greed and wanting to capitalize on successes built by another team. How sad is that. Smh. That kinda thing is why Ferrari keeps losing. Bonehead upper management BS. They think only in terms of bottom line, not team unity and cohesion. It’s a disease Ferrari has suffered since before Luca screwed Schumacher into leaving Ferrari too early, and they haven’t fully recovered since. 2007 drivers championship was because Fred and Lewis took points off each other all season and opened the championship to the driver of a lesser car. Same will happen with Charles and Lewis as what happened with Fred and Lewis. Great for us fans, but bad for Ferrari.

If they choose to support Charles, ultra melancholy Lewis will meltdown being forced to help CL win the championship. He can’t eat that much humble pie. He’s too prideful.

Ferrari have shot themselves in the foot with this one. Big time. It’s not going to go well if they are contenders. If they aren’t contenders, I think Charles and Lewis get along ok as there’s no glory for first loser and lower finishing positions, and neither will care if they can’t contend for the championship.

Really looking forward to 2025. It will be epic.
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Ferrari thread will be epic in the new season with all the Mercedes fans that cannot believe what happened.
Suddenly many F1 analyst's appear saying how bad was the move from Ferrari, or Leclerc will leave or the team did a huge mistake etc.
Personally i say, let's wait and see and i predict a very good collaboration between the 2 drivers where it seems both have respect for the other.
Bottom line? No one is above the team, the Binotto days are over.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 22:10
Max' fans obsessing about Leclerc and Hamilton is gonna bring about 500 pages alone in Ferrari thread next year...
I am not sure, what you mean...Hamilton will be even more calm. He completely changed his antics after Rosberg and even stays super calm now with Russel.
Similarly Leclerc, he never had a big clash with Sainz in the last years, a bit on the radio in the race, but nothing really open fight like.
My clear bet, this will be all "best friends" at Ferrari. No one of them can afford to be the a$hole in the game. And if they are not at the top of the standings it will be just boring like this team thread this year, mostly about next year...like this series of posts...
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Max' fans obsessing about Leclerc and Hamilton is gonna bring about 500 pages alone in Ferrari thread next year...
To think, the whole Hamilton fanbase is going to hate , scorn and wish failure on the Audi F1 team now and for the foreseeable future over this very softy worded quote from Binotto…
Ferrari thread will be epic in the new season with all the Mercedes fans that cannot believe what happened.

Gentlemen, please leave future crimes to Tom Cruise and stay on topic. The above is trolling, nothing less. More of this and there might be official warnings.

But it is only ‘em hating, all haters, not me, no sir! I have a damn good mirror, and it is the same.

Learn to live together, and don’t add fuel to what you perceive to be a fire. Please, don’t be a part of the problem.

Fan-fights elsewhere, thanks.
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https://scuderiafans.com/matia-binotto- ... ntributed/

“If I think about the experience as team principal, it was a beautiful challenge: there was a team coming off difficult years that needed to be revitalized. We had to rebuild the foundations for a solid organization, also focusing on young talent.” – the Italian manager pointed out.
In a world according to Binotto, fighting for both titles and scoring many wins and podiums constitutes difficult years. I don't think we can even imagine the level of bs in the team during his tenure
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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 21:22
Luscion wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 21:01
AR3-GP wrote:
12 Oct 2024, 20:57


https://www.corriere.it/sport/formula-1 ... 7xlk.shtml


For those who accused Binotto of hating Leclerc...
Binotto says that but Its something Leclerc wanted (both articles from this week)
Yesterday Frédéric Vasseur and Charles Leclerc were among the protagonists at the Festival of Sport.

It is no longer a secret that the Monegasque has been alerted to the negotiations with Lewis Hamilton, with Leclerc gladly accepting the challenge: “Charles has always agreed and that has led me to push hard for it to happen.

https://formu1a.uno/it/vasseur-leclerc- ... -hamilton/

I knew about the negotiations with Lewis, for me to have him next to me will be an additional challenge with everything he has won. I am very happy with his arrival and I am looking forward to it, because from every teammate you can learn. For me it will also be a great opportunity to show what I can do in the car.
https://formu1a.uno/it/leclerc-larrivo- ... he-per-me/
Luscion you are being naive :lol:

This Hamilton mission was pushed on Vasseur and Leclerc by those above them. Everyone has to "say the right thing" to keep the peace at Ferrari.

Binotto actually created a sandbox for Leclerc and would have kept Sainz. It is those who have succeeded Binotto who are now creating obstacles, missions, and directives that are not in Leclerc's interest but you won't see people accuse them of hating Leclerc like they did to Binotto.

Binotto may be guilty of technical and/or political errors, but he always intended to entrust the team to Leclerc when Leclerc and the team were ready to win a championship, rather than give it away to an outsider (Hamilton).

For Leclerc, all he can do now is make the most of it. Beat Hamilton and gain some reputation points and hope Ferrari stops shopping for more outsiders after Hamilton leaves. It should be Bearman next. Not another "decree" for an outsider.
There’s a lot to unpack here, but the opinion that Binotto created an obstacle-free, sandbox environment for Leclerc, and that Binotto was fully prepared to support Leclerc as a #1 driver at some unspecified point in the future, are dubious claims at best; simply speculative opinion rather than any sort of established objective fact. And when looking at the decisions Binotto made (that impacted Leclerc), it’s hard to truly believe (in good faith) the claims you make about Binotto being fair/impartial towards Leclerc, and his future plans to empower him as a #1 driver.

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I really don't care who drives for Ferrari. I just want the team to transform back into the shitshow it was and make horrible strategy calls once again. That'll make me happy.
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Maybe I now understand why Sainz improved so much after the Ferrari Team Principal change. :-k