2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Re: 2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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deadhead wrote:
15 Oct 2024, 17:20
I think it's not a secret that HAM likes the seat a far back as possible as well so that could be another benefit.

Changing so many things could also backfire, but I doubt they will make any colossal mistakes :D
I don't think Hamilton's cockpit preference is really a thing. W11 was a ridiculous transoceanic tanker and the cockpit was very far forward because extending rear axle rearwards allowed greater floor area and downforce and I can't remember him ever complaining about cockpit position :mrgreen:

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The idea behind W13 and forward cockpit position was packaging and aligning CoG with expected CoP position. Like Ferrari, Mercedes went the classic route of venturi floor design in 2022 - placing the throat fairly forward and replicating aero foil geometry with the tunnel roof, which places overall CoP more forward than going with Red Bull route. Inwashing and clean rear end was a packaging consequence, because you need to place everything as close to CoG in all directions to reduce inertia of the car.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Chuckjr wrote:
16 Oct 2024, 05:44
yooogurt wrote:
15 Oct 2024, 17:23
It is known by the acronym 677 or as the “Lewis car”.

https://www.gazzetta.it/motori/ferrari/ ... n-f1.shtml
The alienation of CL has already begun.
smh.
Right, the French driver, with a French TP and TD, who just recently had his contract extended, is being alienated by a lighthearted phrase describing next season's car and his (new) 7x WDC winning teammate.

This notion that Leclerc is being alienated, pushed out, or otherwise undermined, is really hard to believe and tremendously premature to be claiming. Just ask the man himself: he's content at Ferrari, feels good about their future prospects, and is reportedly fully supportive of Hamilton's arrival (per Vasseur and Leclerc himself). To claim Leclerc is being alienated by Hamilton's arrival is biased opinion without evidence.

We know you don't like Lewis Hamilton on a (deeply) personal level. We know you think acquiring Lewis Hamilton was a bad idea for Ferrari and disagree with their decision. Naturally, you're biased in a way that will make you inclined to believe the narrative you're suggesting is true (even in the presence of reporting indicating otherwise).

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Re: 2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Vanja #66 wrote:
16 Oct 2024, 09:34
deadhead wrote:
15 Oct 2024, 17:20
I think it's not a secret that HAM likes the seat a far back as possible as well so that could be another benefit.

Changing so many things could also backfire, but I doubt they will make any colossal mistakes :D
I don't think Hamilton's cockpit preference is really a thing. W11 was a ridiculous transoceanic tanker and the cockpit was very far forward because extending rear axle rearwards allowed greater floor area and downforce and I can't remember him ever complaining about cockpit position :mrgreen:

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The idea behind W13 and forward cockpit position was packaging and aligning CoG with expected CoP position. Like Ferrari, Mercedes went the classic route of venturi floor design in 2022 - placing the throat fairly forward and replicating aero foil geometry with the tunnel roof, which places overall CoP more forward than going with Red Bull route. Inwashing and clean rear end was a packaging consequence, because you need to place everything as close to CoG in all directions to reduce inertia of the car.
I'm guessing it's all about the driver sitting central to the CoP of the aero platform, and that the current cars have it farther back then the previous gen because of the lack of barge board freedom.
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