Bib parc fermé ride height trick

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-a ... /10663277/
Sources have revealed that discussions have taken place between several teams and the FIA over recent weeks to discuss concerns that one unidentified outfit may have found a clever way to adjust front bib clearance between qualifying and the race.
Thought this deserved its own thread.
The FIA has taken on board the concerns of teams about the possibility of such a device and has decided to take action from this weekend’s race in Austin.
"[...] we have implemented procedural adjustments to ensure that front bib clearance cannot be easily modified.

“In some cases, this may involve the application of a seal to provide further assurance of compliance.”

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Hmmm very interesting .


And if true I thnik its really really pushing into areas of grey

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia- ... /10663272/


However, the suspicions that have erupted are that a team has designed its car in such a way that it was possible to adjust the clearance of the front bib – also known as a T-tray – through a change of settings inside the cockpit.

It is understood teams have been alerted to the possibility of this happening through the design details of all cars needing to be uploaded to FIA servers on open-source components – which all competitors have access to.


From setting changes the driver makes is kinda getting specific too

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Watto wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:08
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia- ... /10663272/


However, the suspicions that have erupted are that a team has designed its car in such a way that it was possible to adjust the clearance of the front bib – also known as a T-tray – through a change of settings inside the cockpit.

It is understood teams have been alerted to the possibility of this happening through the design details of all cars needing to be uploaded to FIA servers on open-source components – which all competitors have access to.


From setting changes the driver makes is kinda getting specific too
It just has to be done via the cockpit. They say an engineer between sessions doing the usual stuff in the cockpit could do it. I don't think there's the insinuation that the driver would be adjusting it on the fly.

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organic wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:15
Watto wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:08
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia- ... /10663272/


However, the suspicions that have erupted are that a team has designed its car in such a way that it was possible to adjust the clearance of the front bib – also known as a T-tray – through a change of settings inside the cockpit.

It is understood teams have been alerted to the possibility of this happening through the design details of all cars needing to be uploaded to FIA servers on open-source components – which all competitors have access to.



Not a teams noticed some funny business during the weekends?

From setting changes the driver makes is kinda getting specific too
It just has to be done via the cockpit. They say an engineer between sessions doing the usual stuff in the cockpit could do it. I don't think there's the insinuation that the driver would be adjusting it on the fly.
Fair pont.

That is was discovered on design docs on public serves teams have access too?

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feel like it mercedes. but watch it be sauber or aston martin

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If people hadn't used up every other fairytale on Red Bull (3 and counting), they might be able to say it's Red Bull this time. :lol:
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AR3-GP wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:44
If people hadn't used up every other fairytale on Red Bull (3 and counting), they might be able to say it's Red Bull this time. :lol:
But they stopped doing this at around Miami for some unknown reason. #-o

edit: but on a more serious note Merc would come to my mind first, thinking about that strange bump which appeared on their nose at around summer I think? Totally blind playful guess btw, I'm not accusing them with this.

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organic wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:15
Watto wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:08
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia- ... /10663272/


However, the suspicions that have erupted are that a team has designed its car in such a way that it was possible to adjust the clearance of the front bib – also known as a T-tray – through a change of settings inside the cockpit.

It is understood teams have been alerted to the possibility of this happening through the design details of all cars needing to be uploaded to FIA servers on open-source components – which all competitors have access to.


From setting changes the driver makes is kinda getting specific too
It just has to be done via the cockpit. They say an engineer between sessions doing the usual stuff in the cockpit could do it. I don't think there's the insinuation that the driver would be adjusting it on the fly.
Could it possibly be just the extra weight of the driver on the seat making the difference?
We have seen drivers complain of seat warming.
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I think it must be Mercedes. The way the floor scrapes until quali and then not so much on Sunday, makes them the suspects.

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If it was Mercedes (not saying it was), then when did they stop? Is that why they've been nowhere since the summer break?

It could also be Mclaren. They've had plenty of liberal interpretations of the regulations this year.
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Big Tea wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 03:01
organic wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:15
Watto wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 00:08
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia- ... /10663272/
If it 'could be' the weight of the driver on the seat that was making the difference, it could not effect any difference between qualifying and the race.








From setting changes the driver makes is kinda getting specific too
It just has to be done via the cockpit. They say an engineer between sessions doing the usual stuff in the cockpit could do it. I don't think there's the insinuation that the driver would be adjusting it on the fly.
Could it possibly be just the extra weight of the driver on the seat making the difference?
We have seen drivers complain of seat warming.

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Maybe that's exactly what Stella meant when he said that the FIA should pay attention not only to McLaren.

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The lack of transparency is astonishing, why not go public with who's doing it...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
17 Oct 2024, 08:22
The lack of transparency is astonishing, why not go public with who's doing it...
You must be new here.


Just kidding.

Yeah, I agree, it's odd that this year there is a lack of a transparency. This is at least the second occasion of a new directive seemingly without evidence of a team violation, or at least, a specific call-out. Ever since Ferrari engine-gate 2019...
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