If all teams have the device, and the key difference is that red bull have made the device accessible from the cockpit then the weight gain from doing that perhaps wouldn't be so bad.
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I doubt there would be any. Be interesting to see if the other teams confirm they do have such a device.
And yet yesterday you talked how it was McLaren because McLaren had a massive advantage in Singapore race. Maybe it was because Red Bull couldn't change the height after qualifying.pantherxxx wrote: ↑17 Oct 2024, 22:03The FIA was already monitoring this stuff in Singapore GP. Did you see any drop in performance? It's was Max's strongest finish in a long time, despite Red Bull was always weak in Singapore even last year.
You seem to have forgotten that Red Bull refused a special livery for Singapore, precisely for reasons of weight saving.
The weight gain would be as much as a tiny cable if all was required was a connection and coding.
This is not about gray areas or cheating the measuring parameters. This is straight out going against the rules betting on the FIA not finding out. It's fraudulent, if they used it as it's speculated.yooogurt wrote: ↑17 Oct 2024, 22:01It's funny how everyone loves the sport, including the fact that engineers look for grey areas in the regulations and try to gain an advantage by doing so. But when some team is caught on this grey zone, immediately starts ‘they are cheaters, how dare they’, especially it is funny if you understand that all the teams are also ‘cheating’, it's just not so easy to find.
The entire schematics were uploaded to fia servers for all the teams to see as it’s a requirement for this area of the car. It wasn’t hiddennico5 wrote: ↑17 Oct 2024, 22:23This is not about gray areas or cheating the measuring parameters. This is straight out going against the rules betting on the FIA not finding out. It's fraudulent, if they used it as it's speculated.yooogurt wrote: ↑17 Oct 2024, 22:01It's funny how everyone loves the sport, including the fact that engineers look for grey areas in the regulations and try to gain an advantage by doing so. But when some team is caught on this grey zone, immediately starts ‘they are cheaters, how dare they’, especially it is funny if you understand that all the teams are also ‘cheating’, it's just not so easy to find.
All teams have a damping element there since 2022 and all damping elements have lots of setup options. The question is how the setup can be changed and where from. If changing suspension setup can be made without anyone noticing every team would do that, but it can't so they don't
If you can adjust the bib and therefore ride height between qualifying and the race via a hidden device? Any weight gain would be offset by the performance gains. It's outright cheating, and if this is what Redbull have done? They should be punished for it.
The issue is not the device itself but how it's controlled (and when it's controlled). The latter was unique to RBR...the device is on every carpantherxxx wrote: ↑17 Oct 2024, 22:36'Red Bull says it is produced for each team by the same manufacturer'
'However, the FIA is going to monitor more strictly from now on.'
Sounds to me like Red Bull Racing got what they wanted. No team will be able to use it.
Maybe it was even VCARB complaining? That would be hilarious.
