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“The penalty is quite logical”PierreW wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 22:51Great defense by Max to keep Norris behind. The McLaren with the DRS wasn't gaining that much. The penlaty if logical since Norris overtook leaving completely the track.
Disappointing pace compared to the sprint race. I don't know what to say and to think about that. The car was much slower than yesterday even in the first medium stint, even at the beginning.
No victory, that is starting to be very long. I knew McLaren and Norris wouldn't win every race but it would be cool for Max to start fighting for victories again instead of just defending and limiting damages.
Verstappen was always ahead of Sainz so I don't now what you are talking about. Sainz attempted to overtake Verstappen, not the contrary.AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 23:03“The penalty is quite logical”PierreW wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 22:51Great defense by Max to keep Norris behind. The McLaren with the DRS wasn't gaining that much. The penlaty if logical since Norris overtook leaving completely the track.
Disappointing pace compared to the sprint race. I don't know what to say and to think about that. The car was much slower than yesterday even in the first medium stint, even at the beginning.
No victory, that is starting to be very long. I knew McLaren and Norris wouldn't win every race but it would be cool for Max to start fighting for victories again instead of just defending and limiting damages.
Is it also logical not getting a penalty for doing the exact same maneuver on Sainz at the same turn?? Or maybe running Norris completely off track at T1 lap 1 and keeping the place?
Just sayin…
First lap incidents are judged differently.AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 23:03“The penalty is quite logical”PierreW wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 22:51Great defense by Max to keep Norris behind. The McLaren with the DRS wasn't gaining that much. The penlaty if logical since Norris overtook leaving completely the track.
Disappointing pace compared to the sprint race. I don't know what to say and to think about that. The car was much slower than yesterday even in the first medium stint, even at the beginning.
No victory, that is starting to be very long. I knew McLaren and Norris wouldn't win every race but it would be cool for Max to start fighting for victories again instead of just defending and limiting damages.
Is it also logical not getting a penalty for doing the exact same maneuver on Sainz at the same turn?? Or maybe running Norris completely off track at T1 lap 1 and keeping the place?
Just sayin…
Russell also had a +5s penalty besides starting from the pit.chrisc90 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 23:07Perez finishing behind russell who started from the pits is shocking. I'm sure this guy is only in the team as a lap counter now adding laps to his career.
Not the best of races overall for Max, would have hoped for a bit more pace, but we leave the weekend 5 points gain on Lando which is a win win all round. 11.5points needed per race now for Lando to win on average.
others just have much faster cars, and have had them for quite a while. nothing changed since before the break, except mercedes getting lost. nothing will change after. yesterday was probably max final win of the season. even if I still keep some slim hopes for mexico, but not because i believe the car will suddenly become fastest, merely because of max ability to do things like he did today.
Yes it was better to give up position then to fight Sainz. Clearly the goal was to stay ahead of Lando.
Hard tyres for the last question, they took the pace away for usVettel165 wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 23:35Yes it was better to give up position then to fight Sainz. Clearly the goal was to stay ahead of Lando.
Our car was solid on medium tyres, but had problems with hards. I watched the onboard and the car had major understeer. You know Max hates it, he likes it when the car will rotate with a good front-end in the corners.
I think Mexico could be damage limitiation with all this low-speed corners with a high downforce setup. Mclaren could be faster again. Brasil could bring rain into the play and a chaos.
What I do find quite hard to understand is how we lost the pace from sprint race to today. The car had better grip and balance there, we pulled away from Lando. They need to analyse this.
That's true about only 1 practice session with upgrades. Mexico will not be good though. Expecting a McLaren / Ferrari show.AR3-GP wrote: ↑20 Oct 2024, 23:41To all, don't waste even a second arguing with the others about the race.
Today is a day to celebrate the driver. +5 points on the weekend to the nearest competitor. Verstappen's performance with the car he has been given this weekend was even more exceptional in hindsight. To take the sprint pole and sprint win....he had already defeated the faster Ferraris. To withstand the Mclaren in the GP lap after lap. It was really unbelievable stuff. The opposition knows they can't beat him and they hate it. I thought Max was finished with 16 laps to go. I thought he was finished with 0.5 second gap onto the back straight. I thought he was finished with 0.4 gap onto the main straight. There just aren't many drivers capable of surviving like this. Remember only 1 day ago, the Mclaren driver didn't last 2 laps in front of the Ferrari of Carlos Sainz before making an error and losing the position.
With respect to the car, they had 1 free practice session to dial in the upgrade. Whatever they changed between the sprint and the GP would have been untested changed. I know that sounds like cope but it's the truth. Let's see what they come up with for Mexico next week. Perhaps Perez can