Flexiwings 2024

[chrisc90]

And just because ive missed them out....

Oscar from the sprint on Saturday.

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This one bends so much that it honestly seems like lens artifacts, it almost looks like a fisheye is being used for the lens. The amount of torsion is incredible.

Ferrari has a lot to learn still in this area, but I doubt they could go much further than where they are at without big changes to the rest of the car.

[Rikhart]

Could you do the same for Red Bull? I would if I had access to those cameras.

Your wish is my command.

This also looks very flexible and even a bit of torsion where the edge flexes more.

Yes, now it does, I already had this feeling watching inboards.

[Rikhart]

And just because ive missed them out....

Oscar from the sprint on Saturday.

Well, this is basically running with 2 different wings.

It's amazing to me how this can ever be considered legal, this is so obvious and blatant. Same for the Merc one, btw.

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Do we have a comparison of the same angle of red bull at cota with an old one such as at Canada or somewhere else with similar downforce levels

[deargodhelpme]

And just because ive missed them out....

Oscar from the sprint on Saturday.

It would also be good to get a shot of Lando's for comparison since Oscar wasn't running the new front wing.

[chrisc90]

It would also be good to get a shot of Lando's for comparison since Oscar wasn't running the new front wing.

I’ll have another look. Certainly didn’t see anything in the race for lando.
Might have to look through FP.

[_cerber1]

Do we have a comparison of the same angle of red bull at cota with an old one such as at Canada or somewhere else with similar downforce levels

In fact, this topic was comical from the very beginning, that Red Bull's wings did not bend, only biased fans did not see this.

[deargodhelpme]

It would also be good to get a shot of Lando's for comparison since Oscar wasn't running the new front wing.

I’ll have another look. Certainly didn’t see anything in the race for lando.
Might have to look through FP.

In that case it might be difficult since they both ran the new front wing for part of FP1 but then Lando got it for the rest of the weekend. Thanks, though.

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Do we have a comparison of the same angle of red bull at cota with an old one such as at Canada or somewhere else with similar downforce levels

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In fact, this topic was comical from the very beginning, that Red Bull's wings did not bend, only biased fans did not see this.

The key is that Ferrari and especially red bull would not have been pushing so hard for FIA to clamp down on flexiwings if they were benefiting from them as much as others.

[chrisc90]

It would also be good to get a shot of Lando's for comparison since Oscar wasn't running the new front wing.

I’ll have another look. Certainly didn’t see anything in the race for lando.
Might have to look through FP.

In that case it might be difficult since they both ran the new front wing for part of FP1 but then Lando got it for the rest of the weekend. Thanks, though.

I’ll have another look through the sprint. I probably started with Oscars car and seen the wing cam and didn’t bother looking at lando.

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The key is that Ferrari and especially red bull would not have been pushing so hard for FIA to clamp down on flexiwings if they were benefiting from them as much as others.

Were there any official protests in the FIA? Or was it all just empty chatter in the press?

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The key is that Ferrari and especially red bull would not have been pushing so hard for FIA to clamp down on flexiwings if they were benefiting from them as much as others.

Were there any official protests in the FIA? Or was it all just empty chatter in the press?

There is lots of room between an official protest and simply press chatter for things to happen

At the very least there was a lot of discussion and the FIA did at least agree to monitor flexing more closely. Iirc They also insinuated that they may change the rules regarding flexing FWs for 2025

[_cerber1]

There is lots of room between an official protest and simply press chatter for things to happen

At the very least there was a lot of discussion and the FIA did at least agree to monitor flexing more closely. Iirc They also insinuated that they may change the rules regarding flexing FWs for 2025

Red Bull obviously also use a flexible wing and no formal protests have been lodged against other teams. So what is your complaint against McLaren or MB?

[Seanspeed]

Well, this is basically running with 2 different wings.

It's amazing to me how this can ever be considered legal, this is so obvious and blatant. Same for the Merc one, btw.

It's not like it's some new situation, either. FIA have precedent for introducing stricter deflection tests midseason in order to address what are so blatantly purposefully designed flexy wings, which are 100% against the intentions of the regulations. They just seem to have refused to do so this year for reasons most people can probably guess.

And it's not just about being about against the regulations, it deprives us of more 'mixed setup' racing. Teams can race with less compromise, which allows them to perform at their best in a much higher percentage of situations. Some people wont mind this, but one of the aims of having something like parc ferme is that teams will have different strengths/weaknesses based not just on inherent car properties, but also setup differences, giving us the potential for more interesting racing.