basti313 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 11:35
Did you read and understand the explanation by the stewards?
Yes. I am not talking about the stewards explanation. They say that Verstappen was ahead at apex and thus entitled to racing room (on the inside). Then he was not able to stay on track and thus gained a lasting advantage.
I am saying that the stewards ignored that Verstappen also forced Norris off in that corner. Even if Verstappen was ahead at apex (as an attacker) he is not allowed to force the other driver off the track. That much was clear in Austin where other drivers got the penalty when they dived on the inside when attacking.
To put it simply, in Austin defender who got to apex first on the inside was allowed to push the other driver off.
In Mexico VER was an attacker so not comparable.
basti313 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 11:35
That was removed on purpose as going through the pits simply ruins the whole race for minor infractions.
In DTM they introduced a slow zone to do this, works really nice. Would also be good in F1. Just 10m at the inside at the beginning of a straight, where they need to go through with the pit limiter.
Yes, I understand why they moved away from serving them in pits, but I am talking about severe big penalties. Here Max had two big penalties and if he had a car he usually had, he wouldn't have lost a point, just like in Austria. Penalties need to be severe enough for people to stop doing it. Getting +5s time penalty for being wide in 3-4 laps is fine, but getting +5 or +10 for shoving a driver off track, that should be more punitive. Another example VER fans like to bring up is Silverstone. Hamilton got just a 10s penalty which didn't really mean a thing.
DTM slow zone would be a much better solution than serving it at next pitstop or added to the end of race. It would mean penalty gets served immediately instead of potentially much later in the race. With how these cars like clean air and how hard it can be to overtake, it is not punitive enough to add them +5 or +10s over half a race, these cars can easily gain that advantage if they are in clean air.