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SSJ4 wrote:
30 Oct 2024, 23:40
Can we go back to Bahrain 23 front wing and side pod spec please
For what? Those was good to make a lot of downforce and make slow the car on the straight. Redbull was so fast because they used almost no wings compared to Aston but still had the same downforce by the floor. Aston followed Redbull in mid season so they made similar front wing but they couldn't create the lost Downforce by floor. Is caused them tyre wear problem, bad balance in every situation. I believe Aston still struggle because of the floor can't creat enough downforce and they can't guide the air without separation. Unfortunately they can't lower the car as they do on the track because then they would damage Mercedes windtunnel floor. But I'm still not sure if Mercedes windtunnel is okey,something is stinks...

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 16:31
SSJ4 wrote:
30 Oct 2024, 23:40
Can we go back to Bahrain 23 front wing and side pod spec please
For what? Those was good to make a lot of downforce and make slow the car on the straight. Redbull was so fast because they used almost no wings compared to Aston but still had the same downforce by the floor. Aston followed Redbull in mid season so they made similar front wing but they couldn't create the lost Downforce by floor. Is caused them tyre wear problem, bad balance in every situation. I believe Aston still struggle because of the floor can't creat enough downforce and they can't guide the air without separation. Unfortunately they can't lower the car as they do on the track because then they would damage Mercedes windtunnel floor. But I'm still not sure if Mercedes windtunnel is okey,something is stinks...
Plus, they'd be 2 seconds or more a lap slower than what we presently have.

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Alonso_fin wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 13:58
When is the team reverting to a in-house manufactured rear axle, next year or the year after? Is McLaren the only Mercedes customer team with their own rear axle?
2026 and yes.

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collindsilva wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 09:52
When will be the new wind tunnel operational.
It would be beneficial if AMR use the new wind tunnel for their 2025 car.
Until then, they can use the AMR 24 similar what MCL did last year.
Since google isn't your friend ...
https://www.planetf1.com/news/aston-mar ... ing-begins

From Sept 8th 2024 ...
Aston Martin’s new wind tunnel is about to enter service, with the constructed facility now in the hands of the team to begin the process of commissioning before coming fully online over the coming months and ahead of F1 2025.

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A theme that Krack himself also underlined at the end of the Mexican weekend, because even if some elements of the last package were set aside for the Mexican stage, it is not said that they cannot return to the car for other stages of this last part of the world championship, perhaps adapting to specific characteristics of the various circuits: "We need to see what the tracks are that will come. For example, there are high-speed tracks where we could choose differently compared to Las Vegas, where perhaps instead there are many low-speed corners. So I think we will decide based on the various characteristics of the tracks".
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-as ... /10668707/

Remember how they said they wanted to stop doing this for the AMR24, that the intention was to make it work well on all tracks without swapping parts? We are just like last year with a frankenstein car. Yet another failure

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KimiRai wrote:
08 Jun 2024, 03:04
I remembered what was said last year about the issue of having to change parts every race between specs with the AMR23 depending on each circuit and how this year they wouldn't need to do it, that the AMR24 would have a bigger operating window and the intention was to make it work well on all tracks without swapping parts. McCullough was keen on repeating that multiple times if you recall.
It's hard to understand how you can spout so much bullsh*t and keep your job.

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Im asking myself. Could be AM build the AMR25 on Mercedes' wind tunnel and after that make some upgrades during the 2025 season on their WT and because of that improve the car like a Mclaren style last year? i think they are anxious to put this car on their WT to see how look the data will be.

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KimiRai wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 19:21
KimiRai wrote:
08 Jun 2024, 03:04
I remembered what was said last year about the issue of having to change parts every race between specs with the AMR23 depending on each circuit and how this year they wouldn't need to do it, that the AMR24 would have a bigger operating window and the intention was to make it work well on all tracks without swapping parts. McCullough was keen on repeating that multiple times if you recall.
It's hard to understand how you can spout so much bullsh*t and keep your job.
Tom McCullough's job title recently changed to team jester, which is similar to the performance director.

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diffuser wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 18:25
OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 16:31
SSJ4 wrote:
30 Oct 2024, 23:40
Can we go back to Bahrain 23 front wing and side pod spec please
For what? Those was good to make a lot of downforce and make slow the car on the straight. Redbull was so fast because they used almost no wings compared to Aston but still had the same downforce by the floor. Aston followed Redbull in mid season so they made similar front wing but they couldn't create the lost Downforce by floor. Is caused them tyre wear problem, bad balance in every situation. I believe Aston still struggle because of the floor can't creat enough downforce and they can't guide the air without separation. Unfortunately they can't lower the car as they do on the track because then they would damage Mercedes windtunnel floor. But I'm still not sure if Mercedes windtunnel is okey,something is stinks...
Plus, they'd be 2 seconds or more a lap slower than what we presently have.
yeah its really easy for us to forget that if Aston were only being compared to themselves, they would probably feel that they had succeeded in their developments. Alonso even said that the 2023 monaco spec of their car wasnt set up great. if they were being pushed as hard by everyone else, the 23 car may have been "hard to drive" like the 24 car has been. they do seem to be really lost in their development, but i think its made a lot more obvious by the competition being very close, front to back of the grid.

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The article quotes from Krack on F1Technical front page is extracted from the TP interviews on Friday at Mexico between FP1 and FP2.

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Aston Martin running back their Suzuka floor for this Brazilian GP.

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Alonso seems fairly quick the first half hour, but I noticed on his last run here, that the car was very low, sparking and scraping the plank on the track the whole straight to the finish line.

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Nikosar wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 16:35
Aston Martin running back their Suzuka floor for this Brazilian GP.
So they are back to a floor spec from early April, and now Alonso look more competitive (compared to Alpine, Vcarb at least)? This team is so lost when it comes to in-season development...

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VCARB did their late low fuel laps on mediums, so there's likely more to come, and Gasly was equally quick as Alonso. So despite finishing 9th, the only team slower was basically Sauber again.