2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Watto wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:17
Unlikely but in the event the race is cancelled tomorrow what happens to the grid penalty for Max's engine change?
I believe grid penalties are served at the first GP where the items are used, so he would serve it in the Vegas GP.

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Surely it's much better to have this GP canceled and serve the penalty at Vegas.

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For points to be awarded under the 2024 Formula 1 rules, at least two green flag laps (laps without the Safety Car) must be completed. Here’s how the points breakdown works based on race distance after those green flag laps:

At Least 2 Laps, Less Than 25% of Race Distance Completed:

25% of the usual points are awarded to the top finishers.
25% to 50% of Race Distance Completed:

50% of the usual points are awarded.
50% to 75% of Race Distance Completed:

75% of the usual points are awarded.
More Than 75% of Race Distance Completed:

Full points are awarded.

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Re: Colapinto to RBR
I've gone through grief > anger > acceptance. :lol:

It would be a shame if factional battles (Colapinto aligned with Horner, Lawson aligned with Marko) and desire for money results in RBR choosing Colapinto over Lawson, despite Colapinto not being significantly more impressive than Lawson.

Hopefully the rumours are untrue though!

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JordanMugen wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 21:02
Re: Colapinto to RBR
I've gone through grief > anger > acceptance. :lol:

It would be a shame if factional battles (Colapinto aligned with Horner, Lawson aligned with Marko) and desire for money results in RBR choosing Colapinto over Lawson, despite Colapinto not being significantly more impressive than Lawson.

Hopefully the rumours are untrue though!
Choosing Colapinto would be exactly the rushed decision that Red Bull loves to do.

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Great news Max might start from p20, Lando from p1. Only because of incompetent FIA. Cmon give Max least a chance to fight. This is not a sport anymore, its a show.

Now I really pray for heavy rain to cancel the race for tomorrow.

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Vettel165 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 21:28
Great news Max might start from p20, Lando from p1. Only because of incompetent FIA. Cmon give Max least a chance to fight. This is not a sport anymore, its a show.

Now I really pray for heavy rain to cancel the race for tomorrow.
Incompetent FIA? While I agree they do show traits of incompetence at times I fail to see how this is one of those times. Sort of hard to do anything about rain storms.

Also weren’t you saying in a previous post that you wouldn’t mind it if they cancel a race because of rain. So you’re ok if luck with weather swings in redbull’s/max’s favour but not ok if swings in mclarens/landos? Quite hypocritical if you ask me.
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Vettel165 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 21:28
Great news Max might start from p20, Lando from p1. Only because of incompetent FIA. Cmon give Max least a chance to fight. This is not a sport anymore, its a show.

Now I really pray for heavy rain to cancel the race for tomorrow.


It would be up to the stewards but it's unlikely they'd use fp1 order rather than the sprint qualifying order, in my view

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Sergej wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:22
Surely it's much better to have this GP canceled and serve the penalty at Vegas.
it's much better to have a wet race and go and win it.

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avantman wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 21:51
Sergej wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:22
Surely it's much better to have this GP canceled and serve the penalty at Vegas.
it's much better to have a wet race and go and win it.
well it would be even better to go straight to Abu Dhabi with the title locked, but we have to face reality.

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Sergej wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 21:59
avantman wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 21:51
Sergej wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:22
Surely it's much better to have this GP canceled and serve the penalty at Vegas.
it's much better to have a wet race and go and win it.
well it would be even better to go straight to Abu Dhabi with the title locked, but we have to face reality.
Nah, Id love to see it coming to the wire.
Abu-dhabi finale and the final lap in particular was incredible, as a sporting fan I've never felt anything like that before. To experience something remotely similar would be incredible. and for Max he would enjoy such win a whole lot more. Past few years the celebrations were sort of muted due to the fact it was expected and also circumstances, like when he was told in Japan during the interview he is the champion. I could image that sucks.
and if he loses in the final race, well..it would be a huge experience as well

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rbirules wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:19
Watto wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:17
Unlikely but in the event the race is cancelled tomorrow what happens to the grid penalty for Max's engine change?
I believe grid penalties are served at the first GP where the items are used, so he would serve it in the Vegas GP.
Hmm...he has a grid penalty for Brazil. I do not think it will carry over if the race is canceled, there is nothing in the rule that may support this. In contrast, penalties for engine parts are not supposed to carry over in any way according to the rules.
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basti313 wrote:
rbirules wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:19
Watto wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:17
Unlikely but in the event the race is cancelled tomorrow what happens to the grid penalty for Max's engine change?
I believe grid penalties are served at the first GP where the items are used, so he would serve it in the Vegas GP.
Hmm...he has a grid penalty for Brazil. I do not think it will carry over if the race is canceled, there is nothing in the rule that may support this. In contrast, penalties for engine parts are not supposed to carry over in any way according to the rules.
You honestly believe that with a straight face?


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dialtone wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:22
basti313 wrote:
rbirules wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 20:19


I believe grid penalties are served at the first GP where the items are used, so he would serve it in the Vegas GP.
Hmm...he has a grid penalty for Brazil. I do not think it will carry over if the race is canceled, there is nothing in the rule that may support this. In contrast, penalties for engine parts are not supposed to carry over in any way according to the rules.
You honestly believe that with a straight face?


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the rules are pretty clear indeed:

"Should a driver use more Power Unit elements than the numbers prescribed in Article 28.2 of any one of the elements during a Championship, a grid place penalty for the race will be imposed upon him at the first Competition during which each additional element is used."

so unless "Competition" means "race" (which I don't think it does), Verstappen's penalty would not carry over. For someone adding a PU now it would be a different story, though, as the first competition it would be "used" at then would be the next one.

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Of course it means race otherwise they would have given the penalty in sprint race.