2024 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 01 - 03

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Ken27 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:07
That was the best drive in formula one history considering all the conditions he had to face. No one else could have done that. For me, clearly the GOAT of F1. Lewis, Schumacher, Senna you can debate for a category below Max.
Lol lets try and stay remotely objective

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What a absolute statement drive from Max.

Simply Lovely!

Thats how we silence them!
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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It's some kind of miracle that Norris won't get any penalties after that start procedure error and TWO unsafe rejoins...

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stewie325 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:11
It's some kind of miracle that Norris won't get any penalties after that start procedure error and TWO unsafe rejoins...
"miracle"

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Gillian wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:30
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02 Nov 2024, 22:23
ispano6 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 22:13
Judging by sprint race pace, Verstappen probably would win the main race. He probably would have passed Piastri and possibly even Lando if it weren't for the VSC.
Have you been watching the season at all? You cant judge or predict the race pace based on sprint pace, especially this year when they are allowed to change setup. It's no secret Max was far more competitive on softer, medium tires in Sprints all but Mclaren got far better on every single occasion on Sunday.
Verstappen had great pace and was faster than both Leclerc and Piastri. Norris was slowed down by Piastri most of the sprint so hard to say how he and Verstappen compared. This was not like Austin where it was pretty clear both Ferrari and Mclaren had more pace.

If they race it will be wet so hard to say what performance will be for all teams but Verstappen seems to have enough pace to get a podium even with the penalty.
P17->P1. I was thinking P5-P1. But yeah, this result was more or less expected, not the quali debacle however.

I was a guest in the Alpine garage during the sprint weekend at the US GP and we were pretty bummed to see Gasly and Ocon both eliminated in SQ3. The mood in the garage was disappointment and in a sense kind of a depressing, but since our visit things are looking on the up and all I can say is that there is some significant parties investing in the team.

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Not many drivers could have done that today, Max is definitely in good company now with that drive in my opinion. Really pleased to see Alpine do well.

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Lets not forget theres the start procedure to worry about after the race.

Surprising Norris got away with going off twice and no penalty's.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:21
Lets not forget theres the start procedure to worry about after the race.

Surprising Norris got away with going off twice and no penalty's.
If anything I think we'll see grid pens for next race.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:21
Lets not forget theres the start procedure to worry about after the race.

Surprising Norris got away with going off twice and no penalty's.
He's 10.6 ahead of TSU, it doesn't matter if they give it to them.

There was a tire pressure problem with the Mercs though, what's happening there?

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dialtone wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:26
chrisc90 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:21
Lets not forget theres the start procedure to worry about after the race.

Surprising Norris got away with going off twice and no penalty's.
He's 10.6 ahead of TSU, it doesn't matter if they give it to them.

There was a tire pressure problem with the Mercs though, what's happening there?
Depends what penalty they impose. Probably will be a none issue though given the gap.

I mean it is a BIG safety issue what he did though.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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As expected, Max would get at least another win before the end and put the drivers championship to bed. Excellent drive. Norris and McLaren still are too rough around the edges to be a consistent threat to a machine like Verstappen and an experienced Red Bull team. Plenty of examples of that today. But that’s all good, as they need go through these learning and what NOT to do in these situations, and prepare as much as they can for next year, which will be one of the greatest F1 seasons of all time, where at least three teams and 4 or 5 drivers will fight for the title until the last race of the season.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:58
That was a masterclass. I think that is Max's best drive for sure. Even if RedBull seemed faster Norris could have won that if he wasn't crying to pit!

It is also a testament to the RedBull strategists and the crappyness of the McLaren strategist.
As a Verstappen fan, i don't think this is his best drive.

Most of the places were made up on the first start/lap (+7 places), which is of course still good work by Max, but it's not the same as making it up on track. He was also stuck behind Leclerc for a good part of the race, until Ferrari brainfarted and pitted Leclerc into traffic.

The gamble Red Bull took on the red flag was insane. The safety car was deployed, and they didn't pit Max - and the chances of someone crashing under the Safety Car is really slim. The rain at the time didn't indicate to me that Race Control was gonna red flag it for weather alone.

I'd still put Brazil '16 higher, and there's a few other drives that comes to mind as well (70th anniversary drive was really good, but it's always hard comparing dry and wet races).
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dialtone wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:26
chrisc90 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:21
Lets not forget theres the start procedure to worry about after the race.

Surprising Norris got away with going off twice and no penalty's.
There was a tire pressure problem with the Mercs though, what's happening there?
Merc changed tire pressure after the aborted start while the wheels were still on the car instead of taking them off, against technical regulations, would be surprised if its not a DSQ for both drivers

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Luscion wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 20:33
Merc changed tire pressure after the aborted start while the wheels were still on the car instead of taking them off, against technical regulations, would be surprised if its not a DSQ for both drivers
DSQ is possible, but it should at the very least be a drive-through or 10 second stop and go penalty (either +20 or +30 seconds when applied after the race).

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Verstappen proving who is the best period.