I get the feeling anyway the worst penalty they should’ve given them was a 5 sec penalty but it wouldn’t have really made a difference.
Well it's his job to apply the FIAs rules. He could always tell the FIA to f*ck off, but then Johnny will get fined too
The strangest thing from race control when 3 drivers have breached the rules to delete one lap from a race :
Exactly this!venkyhere wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 04:16The strangest thing from race control when 3 drivers have breached the rules to delete one lap from a race :
"noted, will evaluate after the race"
What is there to evaluate ? It was a binary yes/no decision - cars drove off on yellow lights.
What stewards' message really meant :
"we will decide based on race result in case there is going to be big repercussion on championship fight"
Getting ahead of your skis a bit aren't you?dia6olo wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 04:57Exactly this!venkyhere wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 04:16The strangest thing from race control when 3 drivers have breached the rules to delete one lap from a race :
"noted, will evaluate after the race"
What is there to evaluate ? It was a binary yes/no decision - cars drove off on yellow lights.
What stewards' message really meant :
"we will decide based on race result in case there is going to be big repercussion on championship fight"
I'm not surprised to see Norris and Mercedes get away with small fines.
I get the feeling that because Max finished ahead of them both they decided no harm done and sod Ferrari!
Had Max only finished I don't know, P5/6/7 with both Lando and Russel ahead, I am convinced they would have both been penalized with a time penalty, they would have had no choice but to do so because there would have been a massive stink kicked up had they not! Ultimately they screwed Ferrari over!
But that doesn't make sense. With Norris losing out heavily to Verstappen they could have given him a big penalty as it doesn't matter anymore. It would be much bigger issue if Norris won with a small margin and then the penalty would be potentially a big difference.venkyhere wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 04:16The strangest thing from race control when 3 drivers have breached the rules to delete one lap from a race :
"noted, will evaluate after the race"
What is there to evaluate ? It was a binary yes/no decision - cars drove off on yellow lights.
What stewards' message really meant :
"we will decide based on race result in case there is going to be big repercussion on championship fight"
Agreed. I am happy that it almost certainly will not end up close with Verstappen so that we can go back and think about Austria (17 points swing), Hungary (7 points) and Italy (3 points) that Norris could have scooped up. Imagine how frustrating that would be. In a similar way I hope we don't miss out on WCC due to mistakes.BMMR61 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 08:07Best part of today's result in my opinion is the hyperventilating over the drivers championship should fade away. All the "McLaren have robbed Lando" will have to be forgotten by their authors. If we took a forward look before the season started at what would be a good outcome, most people would probably have said 3rd best car (WCC?). As it is, I'll take it. Still a bit to be done but it would be nice to finish 2024 strongly.
Well, this was a genuine procedural mistake in the heat of the moment at the most stressful point of the weekend.
Yes, but what else should they do? If it is "uncharted" hand out a reprimand and everyone is happy. Giving a 5 or 10sec without effect would be just a joke. So the reprimand is actually a correct solution and at least a real "penalty".bananapeel23 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 00:31This is uncharted territory. What I know is Norris&co made a mistake large enough to cut a lap out of the race distance. A reprimand is usually for a procedural error that has little to no effect on the race. Cutting laps out of it is definitely not "little to no effect".